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Old Mon Jan 26, 2009, 04:54pm
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My focus was on "anticipates the contact." I don't think "selling a foul" is necessarily a T, "faking being fouled" is a T. I think there's a difference.

As was previously stated, if you don't call the T on B1, you have to call the foul on A1. Unless you think letting A1 jump on top of him is appropriate punishment for trying to "sell" a PC foul.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2009, 05:21pm
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My focus was on "anticipates the contact." I don't think "selling a foul" is necessarily a T, "faking being fouled" is a T. I think there's a difference.

As was previously stated, if you don't call the T on B1, you have to call the foul on A1. Unless you think letting A1 jump on top of him is appropriate punishment for trying to "sell" a PC foul.
Usually I agree with you, Snaq, but "selling" (per OP) something that doesn't exist is fraud. This is most likely a htbt but unless the kid was kinda red-faced with an "oops, he didn't run me down after all" expression (i.e. "I guess self-preservation wasn't an issue after all ..."), it was just another one of the little darlin's being a smart-aleck. Seen it too often. Manytimes with Mommy's accompanying accusations against that mean old man in the stripes missing a "clear" foul.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2009, 05:26pm
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Usually I agree with you, Snaq, but "selling" (per OP) something that doesn't exist is fraud. This is most likely a htbt but unless the kid was kinda red-faced with an "oops, he didn't run me down after all" expression (i.e. "I guess self-preservation wasn't an issue after all ..."), it was just another one of the little darlin's being a smart-aleck. Seen it too often. Manytimes with Mommy's accompanying accusations against that mean old man in the stripes missing a "clear" foul.
Anticipating contact is different than faking being fouled. Selling a foul when there is contact (remember, Jonny usually thinks he actually got fouled when we have incidental contact) is different than faking being fouled.

To me, it's the difference between overreacting to contact (or even expected contact) and flopping with no-contact.

The way I read the OP, the kid was expecting contact, was bracing for it and attempting to embelish the reaction a bit; and got surprised when there was no contact at all.
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I read it just like it says. If you didn't T him up for attempting to fake that is on you. You cannot ignore the foul commited by A. People get away with things durring the game and maybe we did see it and didn't call it. That does not prevent me calling a foul when they are fouled later. This is what you seem to be saying. If not, you are wanting the T. I realize time is probably relevant here, but I hope you see my view.
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As was previously stated, if you don't call the T on B1, you have to call the foul on A1. Unless you think letting A1 jump on top of him is appropriate punishment for trying to "sell" a PC foul.
Agree totally here btw.
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