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refnrev Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:23pm

Just when you think you have heard it all
 
Boys V game. In 3rd quarter white dribbles and is double teamed by blue. White goes deep into the corner and is trapped by blue. White maintains dribble and is able to dribble out of the trap. I'm T and am table side. Blue coach is behind me. He points and yells, "That's a moving screen... it was a moving screen all the way down court." He's pointing to 3 players... his 2 defenders and the dribbler. And I thought I had heard it all before.

cardinalfan Thu Jan 22, 2009 09:07am

I was in the C position last week when a coach said, "Get 'em outta the lane. He's camping in the lane."
I said, "Coach, he's playing defense."

After that, the coach made jokes all night about getting momentarily confused.

bc7 Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:47am

I was doing a high school aged Rec league game last Saturday in a gym that was so quiet I was afraid people could hear my knee brace squeaking, when out of nowhere a parent stands up and starts screaming for a defensive 3-second call.

We were being evaluated at this game, and at halftime, I asked my evaluator if we had been promoted to the NBA.

Vinski Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:57am

Girls JV last week: scramble for loose ball up by the division line in white’s front court. White dives on the floor for the ball and with one hand scoops the ball and passes it directly to a team mate in back court. I am T and right on it and call an over and back violation. Someone in the crowd said, “That can’t be over and back, she never had control”. I’m smiling to my self thinking that was a great uncontrolled pass.

grunewar Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:03pm

JVB game. A down by 10 middle of the 4th Qtr. B is employing a full court man to man press. A1 inbounds to A2 in the backcourt (A2 must be a linebacker on the football team as well, big/strong kid) who proceeds to make a few dribbles and run right through and over B1 who has good LGP. B1 is knocked down and slides 15 feet down court on his back. TWEET! Player-control foul on A1. Who then says under his breath, “It’s his own fault. Boys gotta get out of my way when I’m going to the hole.”

mbyron Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:06pm

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 571198)
Who then says under his breath, “It’s his own fault. Boys gotta get out of my way when I’m going to the whole.”

How do you know he said it with a mistaken spelling? Did he aspirate the H? :D

grunewar Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:14pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 571200)
How do you know he said it with a mistaken spelling? Did he aspirate the H? :D

Fixed it - sheesh!

Raymond Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:17pm

I'm the 'C' opposite table in the 2nd half. V is down by about 20-25 points. V player drives to the basket from the Trail and gets fouled up high by the primary defender who was guarding V player for the entire drive. Trail has foul. I come tableside for the free throws. V HC starts complaining but I don't make out what he is saying. I'm confused as his player is shooting 2 free throws. After 1st free throw V HC complains again. His complaint is that there weren't 2 whistles on the foul. He is upset because the Lead didn't have a whistle. :rolleyes:

EIA REF Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:32pm

JV G game and home team attempts a shot. Home player has been in the lane for a couple of seconds and as the shot attempt is air balled, visiting coach yells 3 seconds. He continues to say that a 3 second count continues on an air ball! You need to call that!!

referee99 Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:45pm

8 seconds into a Var Girls game, Trail calls traveling right in front of him.
From right behind him in the stands comes, "Jeez ref, call it both ways!"

... oh wait, that was from me. Fellow official got a chuckle, though.

AKOFL Thu Jan 22, 2009 02:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 571207)
I'm the 'C' opposite table in the 2nd half. V is down by about 20-25 points. V player drives to the basket from the Trail and gets fouled up high by the primary defender who was guarding V player for the entire drive. Trail has foul. I come tableside for the free throws. V HC starts complaining but I don't make out what he is saying. I'm confused as his player is shooting 2 free throws. After 1st free throw V HC complains again. His complaint is that there wasn't 2 whistles on the foul. He is upset because the Lead didn't have a whistle. :rolleyes:

Was that a college coach? You said you went table side, thats not a NFHS mech. yet!

Mark Padgett Thu Jan 22, 2009 02:57pm

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Originally Posted by EIA REF (Post 571220)
He continues to say that a 3 second count continues on an air ball! You need to call that!!

"Coach, I've got a rule book in my bag. Let's look it up. If you're right, I'll give you $100, but if I'm right, you have to go out in the parking lot and wash my car. What do you say?"

I've never had a coach take me up on that offer.

OHBBREF Thu Jan 22, 2009 02:58pm

Clueless at any level!
 
First half womens DIII
Post player team A gets her own rebound, left foot goes to the floor first, she stands on two feet -I am in the C on the back side of the play, she jumps and spins, while in the air put the ball to the floor starting a dribble.

I call the walk, Team A coach goes balistic "how could that possibly be a walk she had two feet on the floor". I explained the call and he calmed down somewhat.

Second half
Post player team b gets a rebound and while airborne puts the ball to the floor to begin a dribble, Team A coach goes balistic, "how is that not a travel?"

Just ignore and move on.

Mark Padgett Thu Jan 22, 2009 03:01pm

I had a game a few days ago in which I called a travel. When I went to administer the ball for the OOB, that coach yelled "Aren't we in the bonus?" Sheesh!

fullor30 Thu Jan 22, 2009 05:18pm

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Originally Posted by OHBBREF (Post 571301)
First half womens DIII
Post player team A gets her own rebound, left foot goes to the floor first, she stands on two feet -I am in the C on the back side of the play, she jumps and spins, while in the air put the ball to the floor starting a dribble.

I call the walk, Team A coach goes balistic "how could that possibly be a walk she had two feet on the floor". I explained the call and he calmed down somewhat.

Second half
Post player team b gets a rebound and while airborne puts the ball to the floor to begin a dribble, Team A coach goes balistic, "how is that not a travel?"

Just ignore and move on.

What's a walk?:D

M&M Guy Thu Jan 22, 2009 06:13pm

Coaches are like wives - can't live with them, can't shoot 'em. :D

(Sorry, BITS - I hope I didn't use one of your lines from the article...)

AKOFL Fri Jan 23, 2009 02:29am

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 571369)
What's a walk?:D

It's something you cook oriental food in.:rolleyes:

APG Fri Jan 23, 2009 03:57am

This was right after the LeBron James crab dribble nonsense.

BJV game where a player from the home team dribbles down the middle of the lane, and attempts a lay-up and is fouled. Player didn't even come close to traveling yet the coach for the visit team is beside himself.

Coach: "You can't let him do that. You can't crab dribble!"

Me: :rolleyes:

Guess it was only a matter of time.

just another ref Fri Jan 23, 2009 04:05am

Several years ago a charter school opened, with classes only through 8th grade. I was sent to officiate one of their first games ever, which was played in a church gymnasium. I was talking to the guy who was to be the timer for the night, and he asked, "How many fouls before they shoot free throws?" I said bonus starts on the seventh. He nodded and said, "OK, so will you tell us when or do we need to keep up with it?" :eek:

Rich Fri Jan 23, 2009 05:12am

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Originally Posted by AKOFL (Post 571298)
Was that a college coach? You said you went table side, thats not a NFHS mech. yet!

Calling official goes tableside in NFHS 3-person mechanics. Has now for 3-4 years. So you're right, I don't understand why the noncalling official would unless it was either a college game or his state ignores NFHS mechanics.

I wonder if they'll send us opposite again in another year or two. Personally, I like going tableside. I can talk to coaches rather than having them try to talk by screaming across the floor.

mj Fri Jan 23, 2009 09:31am

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 571523)
I wonder if they'll send us opposite again in another year or two. Personally, I like going tableside. I can talk to coaches rather than having them try to talk by screaming across the floor.

That would be a step backward in my opinion. I like going tableside also.

Adam Fri Jan 23, 2009 09:57am

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Originally Posted by mj (Post 571561)
That would be a step backward in my opinion. I like going tableside also.

I agree, but I think Rich is right to wonder. NCAA went table side first, then NFHS followed. NCAA just switched back saying too much talking was going on. NFHS may follow again.

Refsmitty Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:02am

Chuckle
 
BJV game Wed - called a foul on white team #34 - as we are lining up to shoot #34 says in all seriousness - Ref - how many fouls do I have now?:)

Fritz Fri Jan 23, 2009 02:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 571522)
Several years ago a charter school opened, with classes only through 8th grade. I was sent to officiate one of their first games ever, which was played in a church gymnasium. I was talking to the guy who was to be the timer for the night, and he asked, "How many fouls before they shoot free throws?" I said bonus starts on the seventh. He nodded and said, "OK, so will you tell us when or do we need to keep up with it?" :eek:

7Grls game a week or so ago, parent volunteers from each team working the table. Rec league. I like to check with the table when reporting TOs and between halves (don't play quarters) and ask "everything okay? any problems?" Got a thumbs up each time during this game.

Late in the game, a couple of points difference, TO called. I report it and ask again "everything good?" then remind timer to watch us for starting the clock. Timer says, "I think she (book) shorted us a couple of points". OK, let's check the line totals real quick. Turns out the book was only keeping a running score and running fouls, nothing on the individual player lines. :eek:

I ask her why and she says......................."I thought we only cared about the total score. I don't keep the personal lines because the girls argue about who scored the most points."

"Tweet, wanna get away?!?!"

Coltdoggs Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:21pm

8th grade game, player bringing the ball up against pressure...straddles the half court line, keeping dribble...goes back into the backcourt....Coach wants to know why I didn't call "back and forth" :confused:

ace Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:35pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bc7 (Post 571186)
I was doing a high school aged Rec league game last Saturday in a gym that was so quiet I was afraid people could hear my knee brace squeaking, when out of nowhere a parent stands up and starts screaming for a defensive 3-second call.

We were being evaluated at this game, and at halftime, I asked my evaluator if we had been promoted to the NBA.

Evals ina rec leauge? wow...

BillyMac Sat Jan 24, 2009 06:01pm

Sounds Like A Classic Example Of Back And Forth ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Coltdoggs (Post 571829)
Coach wants to know why I didn't call back and forth.

Me too. Why didn't you call back and forth?

cardinalfan Sat Jan 24, 2009 09:27pm

A few nights ago...
VG game. Coach jumps up and comes to halfcourt line to bark at one of my partners. Whack (quick, but I don't have a problem w/ it). He signals the T and walks away.
I go over to calm her down and she says, "I promise I didn't call a timeout!"

We had to start from scratch. :rolleyes:

Back In The Saddle Sun Jan 25, 2009 01:53am

BJV a few weeks ago. Coach has been a PITA and is getting no love from us. He also really, really, really wants a 3 second call. Has wanted it all game long. So in a last ditch effort, he has his captain ask me to "please watch the 3 seconds."

I'm afraid I ripped that poor kid a bit of new one. :o

"You're kidding me, right? There are 3.8 seconds left in the game and they've got the ball in their backcourt!"

Back In The Saddle Sun Jan 25, 2009 01:59am

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 571382)
Coaches are like wives - can't live with them, can't shoot 'em. :D

(Sorry, BITS - I hope I didn't use one of your lines from the article...)

Do we know this for sure? Has anyone ever tried shooting a coach? :D

Adam Sun Jan 25, 2009 02:29am

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 572001)
Do we know this for sure? Has anyone ever tried shooting a coach? :D

I know my wife would shoot me if I ever compared her to a coach.

Rita C Sun Jan 25, 2009 04:37pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 571207)
Trail has foul. I come tableside for the free throws.

Why?

Rita

Rita C Sun Jan 25, 2009 04:40pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 571523)

I wonder if they'll send us opposite again in another year or two. Personally, I like going tableside. I can talk to coaches rather than having them try to talk by screaming across the floor.

Which is why they made it so. Made sense to me.

Rita

AKOFL Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:31pm

I like being table side as well. you know what you called and why you called it. Who better to talk for the coach if indeed he has a QUESTION. If there is too much talking going on, we have a tool that will quiet them down. WE, must control our environment, not the coach. Sometimes that is more difficult than others.:rolleyes:


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