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bob jenkins Tue Jan 20, 2009 09:06am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 570329)
Sorry, tights are not pants.

Reference, please.

and, FWIW, I agree the rule shuld be changed.

Hmmm -- girls / women sometimes wear "skorts" or "cullottes" (or something like that) -- basically "shorts" with a "skirt" overlay, but all sewn into one article of clothing. So, what if someone make "shants" or "shights"-- a similar article with shorts and pants / tights sewn together. Would that meet the definition of "pants?" I'm not sure why it wouldn't -- and since it would look the same as shorts over tights, the latter should also be allowed.

bball_lurker Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:50am

Completely unrelated to socks, but on the note of fashion police, take a look at this picture.

http://mickwhite.org/kvs/2009-photos.../target36.html

This is a fairly big time HS game played yesterday in WA state. Seems to be a few violations here, but they seem to have let it go, which I think is good.

Scratch85 Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:03am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 570329)
Sorry, tights are not pants.

Are pants addressed anywhere other than 3-4-5?

Adam Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:03am

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Originally Posted by bball_lurker (Post 570424)
Completely unrelated to socks, but on the note of fashion police, take a look at this picture.

http://mickwhite.org/kvs/2009-photos.../target36.html

This is a fairly big time HS game played yesterday in WA state. Seems to be a few violations here, but they seem to have let it go, which I think is good.

Why?

bball_lurker Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:08am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 570431)
Why?

It has nothing to do with the game of basketball. Black or white head band, neither will distract from the game. The rule makers, I believe, are out of their minds. Next will they decide to dictate nail polish and hair style? It's a waste of everyones time worrying about that sort of thing.

Scrapper1 Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:17am

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Originally Posted by bball_lurker (Post 570424)

I don't see any, except the officials' gray shirts. A girl has a white jersey and black headband, but that's legal. None of her teammates is wearing anything different. There's one girl with white on her wrist and a black headband, but it looks to me like tape. Again, no violation. What am I missing?

Scratch85 Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:21am

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 570435)
I don't see any, except the officials' gray shirts. A girl has a white jersey and black headband, but that's legal. None of her teammates is wearing anything different. There's one girl with white on her wrist and a black headband, but it looks to me like tape. Again, no violation. What am I missing?

I'm with scrapper. I don't see any violations.

bball_lurker Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:22am

Oh, I thought away had to wear black headbands and home white. Is that not true? Looks like they're all wearing black.
Edit: The last varsity home game I watched, one girl had to remove a black headband in the middle of a game.

Scratch85 Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:28am

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Originally Posted by bball_lurker (Post 570437)
Oh, I thought away had to wear black headbands and home white. Is that not true? Looks like they're all wearing black.
Edit: The last varsity home game I watched, one girl had to remove a black headband in the middle of a game.

Choices for either team are; black, white, beige or a single solid color similar to the torso of the jersey. A teams headbands must be uniform in color.

ref2coach Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:29am

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Originally Posted by bball_lurker (Post 570424)
http://mickwhite.org/kvs/2009-photos.../target36.html

This is a fairly big time HS game played yesterday in WA state. Seems to be a few violations here, but they seem to have let it go, which I think is good.

I am not seeing a violation. 4 Home players in picture 2 with "black" head bands, legal, two with "hair control devises", legal. 3 Visiting players in picture 2 with "black" head bands, legal, 1 with "hair control devise", legal. Everything I see in this picture is legal, no need to ignore anything.

grunewar Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:30am

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 570435)
What am I missing?

As I reviewed the series of photos I saw the white team with both gray AND black headbands/hair restraints.

M&M Guy Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:40am

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 570441)
As I reviewed the series of photos I saw the white team with both gray AND black headbands/hair restraints.

I would be willing to bet the "gray" you see is actually black prewrap that's stretched out. I've seen that quite a bit, and no one that I know has ever diferentiated between shades of a color.

ref2coach Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:46am

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 570441)
As I reviewed the series of photos I saw the white team with both gray AND black headbands/hair restraints.

These are two different items by rule. "Headbands" have color requirements. "Hair Control devises" do not.

CMHCoachNRef Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:48am

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 570441)
As I reviewed the series of photos I saw the white team with both gray AND black headbands/hair restraints.

The challenge with black/gray is that in many cases, when they are compressed, they are black, but when they are stretched out, they fade to gray.

As an expert in the field of headbandology, I believe that these head bands are legal.

Scratch85 Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:49am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 570329)
Sorry, tights are not pants.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scratch85 (Post 570430)
Are pants addressed anywhere other than 3-4-5?

Are you sure tights can't be worn as pants? I agree it would look "way wrong", but I can't find a rule prohibiting it.

I remember a thread (NFHS) about this exact situation. I believe they allowed it.


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