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grunewar Sun Jan 11, 2009 09:04am

Where Do You Warm Up?
 
This is primarily an NBA (NBE) thread with questions, so, turn away now if you don’t want to read it! ;)

Went to the Charlotte Bobcats vs Washington Wizards game last night (stupid Wizards lost at the end after leading the entire game – losers!) Sorry, I digress......

We get there early and everyone is on the court warming up, to include the refs in their “oh so beautiful” off-white jackets with blue stripes – YUK (IMO)! Now, the Wizards are on their half, Bobcats on their half, and right on the middle between the two are the three refs stretching. Squats, lunges, modified jumping jackets, running in place, knee bends, jogging down the sidelines, almost dancing side to side with the blaring music, etc. Now, I guess it shows the fans/players they’re “warming up” just like the other participants. But, it looked odd to me.

I have been taught to go onto the court and its business/game face and to have already warmed up. Just curious, does this change as you get higher up? College? Anyone know if this is required by the NBA? Just curious.

As I suspect, the NBA grades out their officials pretty thoroughly each game. Last night one official “seemed” to call a disproportionate amount of the game. Now it might have been just me, but, my son noticed it too after I pointed it out. It “appeared” like he called 60% of the fouls/violations, and one guy did very little. Maybe it was just “his night.” It was weird though (especially since at half time of my JV game the other night I asked a V ref for some feedback and he told my partner I was calling too much of the game – maybe I was just sensitive to it).

- There were two travelling and one carrying violation! Shocking!

- Some other interesting stuff I saw (duh to me I guess) - mechanics: I was not used to/don't use (hitting the head, backing up to show displacment, trip). I also didn't realize the teams were opposite their benches (not in front of their benches like HS in the 2nd half). And players.....the end of the benches were way off the court! The players on the injured list were in the second row behind the bench or off the endline.

- I really watched the refs hard especially the two that had their electronic devices on their belts - to chop the clock I suppose?

All in all an enjoyable, albiet expensive night......

BillyMac Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:43am

Inquiring Minds Want To Know ???
 
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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 567287)
I also didn't realize the teams were opposite their benches, not in front of their benches like HS in the 2nd half. And players, the end of the benches were way off the court!

I seldom watch NBA games on television, but I will occasionally watch for a few minutes, and I have the same two questions. What are the rules regarding team baskets, and benches in the NBA? Why are the benches so far away from the table, the benchwarmers are often seated below the plane of the endline?

bob jenkins Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:54am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 567315)
I seldom watch NBA games on television, but I will occasionally watch for a few minutes, and I have the same two questions. What are the rules regarding team baskets, and benches in the NBA? Why are the benches so far away from the table, the benchwarmers are often seated below the plane of the endline?

Home team chooses.

Longer tables.

Mark Padgett Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:14pm

I warm up in the men's room.

CMHCoachNRef Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:36pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 567330)
I warm up in the men's room.

I won't even ask.....:D

CMHCoachNRef Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:42pm

Why don't we get to stretch???
 
On a more serious note, I do not like the fact that we are expected to act like coaches in pre-game (standing basically still and watching one of the teams warm-up for 15 - 20 minutes) after stretching BEFORE we get out on the court. We are then expected to be able to run with the players (who have been warming up and getting loose while we STAND for 15 - 20 minutes) as soon as the ball is tossed.

I do sneak in a stretch or two in pre-game, but would like to be able to continue to get loose while watching the teams warm-up. I cannot recall ever seeing a basketball official warming up and continuing to stretch while teams warm-up. On the other hand, I have talked to many a partner who have "tweaked something" just after the opening tip.

BillyMac Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:52pm

We Implore You ...
 
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Originally Posted by CMHCoachNRef (Post 567339)
I won't even ask.

Please don't.

(I don't know what's wrong with me. I woke up this morning, powered up my computer, started posting on my favorite non-porn website, and found myself posting in mbyron (note my title above). I actually have had to look several words in a dictionary to check for spelling, and to see if I actually knew the correct meaning of the word, before posting. I swear that I'm not doing this on purpose. This reminds me of Charles Dickens', "A Christmas Carol", that I read back in seventh grade. Did three ghosts, mbyron Past, mbyron Present, and mbyron Future, come and visit me in a dream last night? Help. I can't stop. Help.)

Mark Padgett Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:59pm

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Originally Posted by CMHCoachNRef (Post 567344)
On the other hand, I have talked to many a partner who have "tweaked something" just after the opening tip.

Is that a men's room reference? :rolleyes:

Chess Ref Sun Jan 11, 2009 01:30pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 567356)
Is that a men's room reference? :rolleyes:

They're just serving you softballs today, aren't they ?:cool:

eyezen Sun Jan 11, 2009 01:33pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 567315)
I seldom watch NBA games on television, but I will occasionally watch for a few minutes, and I have the same two questions. What are the rules regarding team baskets, and benches in the NBA? Why are the benches so far away from the table, the benchwarmers are often seated below the plane of the endline?

If you notice, the new trend at NBA games is to have actual spectator seats between the scorers table and the players benches. In addition to the longer scorers' table this pushes the benches way down below the endline.

BillyMac Sun Jan 11, 2009 01:38pm

I Bet Those Tickets Cost Twenty Or Thirty Bucks Each ???
 
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Originally Posted by eyezen (Post 567376)
The new trend at NBA games is to have actual spectator seats between the scorers table and the players benches.

I was wondering who all those people were. I didn't think that they were all assistant coaches.

grunewar Sun Jan 11, 2009 01:51pm

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Originally Posted by eyezen (Post 567376)
If you notice, the new trend at NBA games is to have actual spectator seats between the scorers table and the players benches. In addition to the longer scorers' table this pushes the benches way down below the endline.

Absolutely! There were ~ ten folks sitting to the left of the Wizards head coach towards the table.

Rich Sun Jan 11, 2009 01:56pm

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Originally Posted by CMHCoachNRef (Post 567344)
On a more serious note, I do not like the fact that we are expected to act like coaches in pre-game (standing basically still and watching one of the teams warm-up for 15 - 20 minutes) after stretching BEFORE we get out on the court. We are then expected to be able to run with the players (who have been warming up and getting loose while we STAND for 15 - 20 minutes) as soon as the ball is tossed.

I do sneak in a stretch or two in pre-game, but would like to be able to continue to get loose while watching the teams warm-up. I cannot recall ever seeing a basketball official warming up and continuing to stretch while teams warm-up. On the other hand, I have talked to many a partner who have "tweaked something" just after the opening tip.

It's hard to come out of the gate. It's one of the biggest gripes I have about having to stand there for 20 minutes, especially after a long drive. In my fantasy world, I'd spend that time on a treadmill or an elliptical machine getting loose.

Chess Ref Sun Jan 11, 2009 02:07pm

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Originally Posted by CMHCoachNRef (Post 567344)
. On the other hand, I have talked to many a partner who have "tweaked something" just after the opening tip.

The first two minutes of my games is the injury zone. I just move as slow as I can get away with till I feel loose again. Rarely pull anything after that but have felt,hammie and calf twinges, in that time period on a fairly consistent basis.

I'm considering the run along the sideline deal no matter who doesn't like it...

wfd21 Sun Jan 11, 2009 02:57pm

Thats why I like NCAA Womens mechanics. On the court at "15:00", off the court at "10:00", back out at "3:00" without coats. Come out more ready to go. Usually I will go to trainers room and use bike or treadmill.


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