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Mark Padgett Wed Jan 07, 2009 02:40pm

This hadn't happened to me in a long time
 
I've gone years without getting a partner that really ticked me off, but it happened last night. It was the first time I ever worked with him and I hope it will be the last. Usually, I can get along with anyone, but not this guy. I have no idea how much experience he has, but I doubt it's much.

Three times he argued with me over rule interpretations. Once, I called a travel on a kid who grabbed the ball when he had one knee on the floor and then stood up. My partner blew his whistle right after I did and at first, I though it was just a double whistle. But he turned to the table and said, "My partner had an inadvertent whistle. There's no travel. It's still blue ball." I couldn't believe he or any other official would do something like that. Immediately I went over to him to ask what he was doing. He said for that to be a travel, the player had to have both knees on the ground before standing up, not just one. I told him that's not the rule and he could look it up at halftime. I then corrected the call with the table and both coaches. They both are familiar with me so there was no problem with them. He also didn't know the rule about not shooting FTs on team control fouls. I had to correct that twice even though he disagreed.

The third example just floored me. He called a violation on a free throw because one of the shooter's teammates was in the backcourt talking with the coach. He said they weren't allowed to do that. Once again, I told him he was wrong and corrected the call and counted the FT. He got very upset.

He never hustled the entire game and was frequently out of position, making lots of calls in my area despite the fact that I told him to knock it off.

I kind of got even with him though. This was his second game in a row and at the end of our game, he was soaked with sweat. I knew he had at least a 45 minute ride home (probably longer) and he knew I lived less than five minutes from the gym. As I was walking out the door I turned and said to him, "I don't want to make you feel bad, but I'll be home and already out of a nice hot shower before you even get to the freeway." The look on his face made it all worth it.

jdmara Wed Jan 07, 2009 02:44pm

Unfortunately I think every area has some of those types and it's unfortunately for the officiating community.

-Josh

SeanFitzRef Wed Jan 07, 2009 02:49pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdmara (Post 565763)
Unfortunately I think every area has some of those types and it's unfortunately for the officiating community.

-Josh

OK, so MP, I didn't know you worked with this guy......

YouTube - Worst Call In The History Of Basketball

I was thoroughly disgusted after this.

26 Year Gap Wed Jan 07, 2009 03:00pm

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Originally Posted by SeanFitzRef (Post 565770)
OK, so MP, I didn't know you worked with this guy......

YouTube - Worst Call In The History Of Basketball

I was thoroughly disgusted after this.


That is exactly what I THOUGHT Old School looked like!:D

Scratch85 Wed Jan 07, 2009 03:15pm

Had a similar game last night, G9. My partner (1st year) showed up in uniform and jacket with less than 12:00 on the clock to start the game. Then stopped and talked to a fan while I did pre-game. It pretty much went down hill from there.

Mark, I am guessing your partner did not know "who you are.":D

just another ref Wed Jan 07, 2009 03:21pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 565758)
"My partner had an inadvertent whistle. There's no travel. It's still blue ball."


My partner has a lump on his head. It's whites ball.

Adam Wed Jan 07, 2009 03:22pm

I would have paid to coach this game. :)

Mark Padgett Wed Jan 07, 2009 03:56pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scratch85 (Post 565801)
Mark, I am guessing your partner did not know "who you are.":D

He does now. :cool:

26 Year Gap Wed Jan 07, 2009 03:57pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 565833)
He does now. :cool:

That'll teach him to mess with Skippy Weaselpants!

just another ref Wed Jan 07, 2009 03:58pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scratch85 (Post 565801)

Mark, I am guessing your partner did not know "who you are.":D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 565833)
He does now. :cool:

For the record, who are you?

Mark Padgett Wed Jan 07, 2009 03:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 565836)
For the record, who are you?

I'm the Captain of the US Olympic Sarcasm Team.

Adam Wed Jan 07, 2009 04:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 565836)
For the record, who are you?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 565838)
I'm the Captain of the US Olympic Sarcasm Team.

Just had to ask, didn't you?

AKOFL Wed Jan 07, 2009 04:14pm

I would say this guy needs to be sent down to call elementary basketball, but what did thoes kids do to desreve it? Officials don't need any more help with getting people to not like us.:mad:

Raymond Wed Jan 07, 2009 04:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 565758)
I've gone years without getting a partner that really ticked me off, but it happened last night. It was the first time I ever worked with him and I hope it will be the last. Usually, I can get along with anyone, but not this guy. I have no idea how much experience he has, but I doubt it's much.

Three times he argued with me over rule interpretations. Once, I called a travel on a kid who grabbed the ball when he had one knee on the floor and then stood up. My partner blew his whistle right after I did and at first, I though it was just a double whistle. But he turned to the table and said, "My partner had an inadvertent whistle. There's no travel. It's still blue ball." I couldn't believe he or any other official would do something like that. Immediately I went over to him to ask what he was doing. He said for that to be a travel, the player had to have both knees on the ground before standing up, not just one. I told him that's not the rule and he could look it up at halftime. I then corrected the call with the table and both coaches. They both are familiar with me so there was no problem with them. He also didn't know the rule about not shooting FTs on team control fouls. I had to correct that twice even though he disagreed.

The third example just floored me. He called a violation on a free throw because one of the shooter's teammates was in the backcourt talking with the coach. He said they weren't allowed to do that. Once again, I told him he was wrong and corrected the call and counted the FT. He got very upset.

He never hustled the entire game and was frequently out of position, making lots of calls in my area despite the fact that I told him to knock it off.

I kind of got even with him though. This was his second game in a row and at the end of our game, he was soaked with sweat. I knew he had at least a 45 minute ride home (probably longer) and he knew I lived less than five minutes from the gym. As I was walking out the door I turned and said to him, "I don't want to make you feel bad, but I'll be home and already out of a nice hot shower before you even get to the freeway." The look on his face made it all worth it.

And who hired this dude? I thought you were the supreme assignor for your area?

Ch1town Wed Jan 07, 2009 04:29pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 565758)
But he turned to the table and said, "My partner had an inadvertent whistle. There's no travel. It's still blue ball."

Does he work football too? Sounds like he has white hat tendencies :)


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