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fullor30 Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:33am

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Originally Posted by Ch1town (Post 564164)
I've really been working on eliminating the extra talking from my game, which used to include "let it hit". After "2 shots" I still say "guys/ladies".

Thoughts on whether I should I lose that too?

I'd lose it, just my personal preference. Have an official here who always says "gentlemen", drives me nuts. Another guy, emphasizes 'two' with a high pitch like a cartoon character:eek::eek::eek:

referee99 Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:34pm

Yesterday,
 
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Originally Posted by rsl (Post 563896)
I did my first three man game since camps last summer, and had two really good partners- It was great!

When I administered a free throw, I said "One and one- Play the miss" before bouncing the ball to the shooter. After the game, one partner (Board member on our association that I respect a lot), said that I should only say "one shot", "two shots", or "one and one". No other instructions.

It is common in our area to include phrases like "Wait 'til it hits the rim" or other instructions when administering a free throw, but I think I will follow my partners advice and go to just giving the number of shots.

What do you guys say when administering a free throw?

Had a Boys Varsity game where the announcer raised his voice into a staccato and almost falsetto "two" when saying "xxx is shooting two!" After awhile I was tempted to imitate when talking to the players, but deferred.

I will offer my preference for simplicity: "One", "Two", "One-and-one"

But, depending on circumstances I will embellish with "Made basket, One throw", "Bonus, One-and-one", "Double bonus, Two".

referee99 Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:35pm

Wait...
 
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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 564188)
I'd lose it, just my personal preference. Have an official here who always says "gentlemen", drives me nuts. Another guy, emphasizes 'two' with a high pitch like a cartoon character:eek::eek::eek:

... does he carry over 'gentlemen' for girls games too!?!

also, sounds like he flew out to announce my game yesterday.

bob jenkins Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:43pm

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Originally Posted by Ch1town (Post 564164)
I've really been working on eliminating the extra talking from my game, which used to include "let it hit". After "2 shots" I still say "guys/ladies".

Thoughts on whether I should I lose that too?

Lose it.

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Originally Posted by billymac
I almost always say, "Double bonus, two shots" the first time

What's a "double bonus?" IOW, lose that, too.

fullor30 Sun Jan 04, 2009 01:06pm

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Originally Posted by referee99 (Post 564214)
... does he carry over 'gentlemen' for girls games too!?!

also, sounds like he flew out to announce my game yesterday.

"Alright Ladies/Gentlemen, here we go, we got two, deep breath,relax on the first one." (this is all said after a good 5-6 seconds when everyone is lined up, ready and he has the stage, and THEN the speech is drawn out)

I wanna strangle him..........

referee99 Sun Jan 04, 2009 01:12pm

And WTF?, I've had 2 partners in the past few weeks (both in youth rec situations) say on the first of a two free-throw situation, "the first one is dead."

referee99 Sun Jan 04, 2009 01:13pm

any chance...
 
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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 564228)
"Alright Ladies/Gentlemen, here we go, we got two, deep breath,relax on the first one." (this is all said after a good 5-6 seconds when everyone is lined up, ready and he has the stage, and THEN the speech is drawn out)

I wanna strangle him..........

... he has a 'lengthy' pre-game conference with captains?

"Okay, here's how we're going to call the game tonight...."

mj Sun Jan 04, 2009 02:41pm

"2 times"

"1 more"

"1 and 1"

Rich Sun Jan 04, 2009 02:43pm

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Originally Posted by referee99 (Post 564230)
... he has a 'lengthy' pre-game conference with captains?

"Okay, here's how we're going to call the game tonight...."

"Black line all the way around..."

Adam Sun Jan 04, 2009 05:10pm

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Originally Posted by referee99 (Post 564230)
... he has a 'lengthy' pre-game conference with captains?

"Okay, here's how we're going to call the game tonight...."

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 564264)
"Black line all the way around..."

We're gonna watch for hand checking, and we're gonna try and talk you out of the lane, and we're gonna watch for palming, and we're gonna watch for illegal screens....

BTW, I figure if "let it hit" is the most extranious thing I say all game, I'm fine.

Ray_from_Mi Sun Jan 04, 2009 05:18pm

If two shots, it's 'two' if one shot, it's 'play'. When we are in the last few seconds (< 10) I will add a mention on the last shot to, 'check your clock' before bouncing the ball to the free throw shooter.

Nevadaref Sun Jan 04, 2009 05:38pm

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Originally Posted by Ray_from_Mi (Post 564311)
If two shots, it's 'two' if one shot, it's 'play'.

Do you think that they will stand around and do nothing otherwise?

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Originally Posted by Ray_from_Mi (Post 564311)
When we are in the last few seconds (< 10) I will add a mention on the last shot to, 'check your clock' before bouncing the ball to the free throw shooter.

WTF??? :confused:

Ray_from_Mi Sun Jan 04, 2009 05:57pm

I find that high school players understand that less is more. Sometimes when we say 'one-an-one' after the 1st made basket, players will return to offense and defensive positions, clearing not understanding the phrase, 'one and one' and awaiting the 2nd throw while standing in the blocks. The word 'play' lets everyone know that on this shot play will resume.
I'm sure its frustrating for a coach and maybe the players when the team has the ball and is still dribbling or passing the ball when time expires. The mention to 'check your clock' is a reminder for both teams that time will expire very soon. I have noticed that after saying that, some, (not all) players actually check the clock and I've got to believe, have there thoughts focused on gettng a shot off in the waning seconds, or maybe having the moxie to call a TO (if one is needed).

Adam Sun Jan 04, 2009 05:58pm

So you're coaching the players? You can't even really couch that in "preventive officiating," that's just plain coaching.

Rich Sun Jan 04, 2009 06:02pm

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Originally Posted by Ray_from_Mi (Post 564325)
I find that high school players understand that less is more. Sometimes when we say 'one-an-one' after the 1st made basket, players will return to offense and defensive positions, clearing not understanding the phrase, 'one and one' and awaiting the 2nd throw while standing in the blocks. The word 'play' lets everyone know that on this shot play will resume.
I'm sure its frustrating for a coach and maybe the players when the team has the ball and is still dribbling or passing the ball when time expires. The mention to 'check your clock' is a reminder for both teams that time will expire very soon. I have noticed that after saying that, some, (not all) players actually check the clock and I've got to believe, have there thoughts focused on gettng a shot off in the waning seconds, or maybe having the moxie to call a TO (if one is needed).

Or perhaps you could just say "One" and leave the coaching to the coaches?


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