Running the endline after a made hoop
 

Gentlemen:

This happened in a Christmas travel team tournament last week.
NHSF rules.
After a made hoop by Team B, player A-1 picks up the loose ball and steps out of bounds. He runs two steps or so behind the endline before passing to A-2 who has now stepped completely out of bounds next to him. A-2 drops the pass and then picks it up again and completes the throw in to A-3 inbounds.
Team B coach is calling for a violation saying that A-2 cannot drop and pick up the ball "like that". We play on and after the game I explain to him that A-2 has done nothing illegal and can do whatever behind the endline after a made hoop etc. as long as they (A-1, A-2) release the throw in within 5 seconds.
Can't find any precident in the rule/case book to back me up on this, but I'm sure I am correct..... am I??

The fact that you couldn't find anything to back you up isn't relevant. The fact is, you can't find anything in there to back the coach up. If it's not illegal, it's legal.

What he said... well sort of... ;)

If it's not illegal, then it's legal.

If after a made basket a player picks up the ball, and is set to throw in but tosses the ball to the ref. Does the ref stop the count, throw the ball back? I saw that once and the coach wanted a violation but none was called and I didn't think any should have been.
A delay of game warning for a player that tosses to a ref and the ball bounces off so the player has to chase it. keep counting five seconds or pause? Or blow the whistle to stop the clock and no delay?

The play was perfectly legal. The coach was wrong. Big surprise. :eek:

A player may bounce the ball OOB prior to making the throw-in pass. What's the difference between purposely bouncing it and dropping it to the floor accidentally? In this case nothing.

9.2.2 SITUATION D: A1 dribbles the ball on floor on the out-of-bounds area before making a throw-in. RULING: Legal, a player may bounce the ball on the out-of-bounds area prior to making a throw-in.

Don't take this thread in that direction. Go put your comment in this thread:

http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...ame-sitch.html

Oops. I fixed it.

Better yet, read the thread first. You'll find every possible answer there.

Snaqs:

Are you talking logic lessons from Yogi Berra? :D

MTD, Sr.

This was recently posted on KS official newsletter web site.
Team B can roll the ball to each other, bounce pass it, dribble it. All are legal. Just have to make sure that the ball is released for throw in before 5 count is up.

TJ are you becoming the new grammar guy? Before long you'll be using really really big words like mbyron!:p

I laugh till I cry everytime I see that commercial. It probably my all time favorite commercial.

MTD, Sr.

Please don't complain, or the mods will begin bowdlerizing my posts! ;)

Extra bit of info.
Can a player bounce pass to another player OOB after a made basket?

This is one that we batted around here for a few days, the answer was surprizing.

NO. The pass must be a direct pass to the teammate also OOB, not a bounce pass. This is from the NFHS, and our State R.I.

However, a player dribbling OOB is not a violation.

In case you all wanted to know.

I don't think so. I'm pretty sure you get kicked off the off the forum if your caught bowdlerizing! Isn't that a felony in most states?:):p:rolleyes::confused:

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I'm sure that ChuckElias doesn't laugh, and just cries, when he sees that commercial.

Like ChuckElias, I'm a Red Sox fan also, but unlike almost all Red Sox fans, I'm one of the few who is not a Yankee hater, and Yogi is one of my favorite Yankees. I loved his aggressive attitude at the plate. He is probably one of the all time leaders in home runs hit on balls outside the strike zone, in some cases way outside the strike zone. As a hitter, he never met a pitch he didn't like.

This Is News To Me, Bad News, But Still News ???
 

I disagree, but I can't find a citation to support my interpretation. Can you please offer a citation to support your interpretation?

Show me the NFHS interpretation, and the R.I. interp, if you could. This is legal as the rules are written.

From the Land of OZ
 

This is directly from the KSHSAA website.

SITUATION OF THE WEEK #1

Team A scores, B1 retrieves the ball and steps out of bounds. B2 steps out of bounds on the opposite side of the end line. B1 bounce passes the ball to B2. Is this legal?

RULING: NFHS Rule 7-5-7a – Any player of the team may make a direct throw-in or he/she may pass the ball along the end line to a teammate(s) outside the boundary. The rule does not specify the ball cannot be bounced to the other player. The ball could be passed via a chest pass, overhead pass, bounce pass or could be rolled to the other player (B2) but all this must take place within 5 seconds.

Kansas may have screwed up on the coaching box rule :), but y'all got this one right.

Agree, Additional Citations Please ???
 

7-5-7a: A throw-in anywhere along the end line after a goal or an awarded goal for basket interference or goaltending by a defensive player, as in 9-12 Penalty 1, the team not credited with the score shall make a throw-in from the end of the court where the goal was made and from any point outside the endline. a. Any player of the team may make a direct throw-in or he/she may pass the ball along the end line to a teammate(s) outside the boundary.

dbking: I agree with you, but would love to see additional citations from outside the Sunflower State, hopefully from the NFHS. What's going on in the Ocean State? Maybe the salt air isn't good for you?

Billy, IMO, we don't need more citations. There's nowhere else where the rules differentiate between a bounce pass and any other kind of pass. Back to what I said on another topic. If it isn't illegal, it's legal. There is no rule that makes this illegal.

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Good quote.

"If it isn't illegal, it's legal." © 2009 Snaqwells

"It isn't illegal unless I say it is." © Dick Cheney

"it isn't ******* illegal." c Rod Blagojavich

I thought that was Mrs. Blogojavich. I must have misread the transcripts. :)

Extra, extra bit of information. :D

That is not true. :(

Unfortunately, like most generalizations, there are exceptions. Still, it works in in the vast majority of cases.