Originally Posted by Chess Ref (Post 563423)

i show up for the last 2 games of the local Holiday Classic. Tourneys been going on for 67 million years or so. It's a fun little tourney and i try to make the last couple of games every year.

In the 5th/6th place game they had the following sitch.

The Home team takes a time out. After the time out they apparently put 6 players on the court. Neither official catches it. They make a three. They then steal the inbounds and make another three. Then they steal the ball again and make a lay-up. At this point the refs catch that they have 6 players on the court...

Any thoughts on the clean up. The refs came up with take the points off the board and issued a T for 6 players on the court.

My thinking is the points count, shoot the T, and eat the grief.

What say you ?

Originally Posted by Chess Ref (Post 563423)

Tourneys been going on for 67 million years or so.

What say you ?

Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 563425)

What say you?

You should have been on the crew.

Originally Posted by Chess Ref (Post 563423)

i show up for the last 2 games of the local Holiday Classic. Tourneys been going on for 67 million years or so. It's a fun little tourney and i try to make the last couple of games every year.

In the 5th/6th place game they had the following sitch.

The Home team takes a time out. After the time out they apparently put 6 players on the court. Neither official catches it. They make a three. They then steal the inbounds and make another three. Then they steal the ball again and make a lay-up. At this point the refs catch that they have 6 players on the court...

Any thoughts on the clean up. The refs came up with take the points off the board and issued a T for 6 players on the court.

My thinking is the points count, shoot the T, and eat the grief.

What say you ?

Originally Posted by muxbule (Post 563436)

Points count, shoot the T. Nothing supports taking points off the board; penalized when recognized.

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 563429)

I say we need to ask MTD, Mark, and Jurrasic what the first game was like!

Originally Posted by Chess Ref (Post 563430)

Thats what I try and tell the assignor. But he believes he knows what he is doing. :)

No seriously that level of game is probably a little out of my reach at this point. But I am a pretty competent Girls Varsity ref. :cool:

Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 563473)

If you're a competent girls ref, you're a competent boys ref. Don't want to hijack thread but that's just not true.

Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 563473)

If you're a competent girls ref, you're a competent boys ref. Don't want to hijack thread but that's just not true.

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 563444)

Also known as Moe, Larry, and Curly?

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 563481)

Three words:
tongue in cheek

Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 563473)

If you're a competent girls ref, you're a competent boys ref. Don't want to hijack thread but that's just not true.

Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 563473)

If you're a competent girls ref, you're a competent boys ref.

Originally Posted by Chess Ref (Post 563423)

i show up for the last 2 games of the local Holiday Classic. Tourneys been going on for 67 million years or so. It's a fun little tourney and i try to make the last couple of games every year.

In the 5th/6th place game they had the following sitch.

The Home team takes a time out. After the time out they apparently put 6 players on the court. Neither official catches it. They make a three. They then steal the inbounds and make another three. Then they steal the ball again and make a lay-up. At this point the refs catch that they have 6 players on the court...

Any thoughts on the clean up. The refs came up with take the points off the board and issued a T for 6 players on the court.

My thinking is the points count, shoot the T, and eat the grief.

What say you ?

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef (Post 563598)

This is the second post in the last week about a team having 6 players on the court...I suggest we add some math questions to the 2009-2010 NFHS Basketball Test.

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 563599)

How about something clear and unambiguous like we're used to like:

T/F - An official shall, might, may, will halt play and assess a technical foul to the offending team when the official notices a team has six players on the court during a live ball (or it is brought to their attention by a player, coach, table personnel, or an irate fan or parent). All points shall, might, may, will be erased (no matter how much time has elapsed and how many points are scored). Television monitors and private camcorders are allowed to be used to review the situation.

T/F - If an official misses counting six players on the court and allows play to continue, he/she is subject to public scorn and ridicule.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 563542)

I have to disagree in general with this thought.

In most cases the boys games involve more physical play, are faster, and often have action above the rim. Officiating those aspects of the game can be rather challenging and perhaps beyond someone who is a "competent girls ref." That same person may not have the foot-speed, a comfort with physical, aggressive action, or the necessary skills or knowledge to properly judge GT/BI and high-flying plays near the rim. It's definitely possible that a person who does mostly girls games has not cultivated these aspects of his/her officiating and consequently would not do a quality job on a boys game which involved those things.

Of course, this person could be just fine on a boys game that doesn't include that kind of action.

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 563602)

Why is it I'm perfectly fine with any kind of boys game but uncomfortable after working a girls game where there are 26 held balls and most of the game involves 8 players diving on the floor for loose balls accompanied by people screaming "You have to call SOMETHING!"? :D