In TN in the State rules meetings for Coaches & Referees, #5 was announced as unsporting language to be punished. So at least for that one I will follow the State's instruction.

Depending on the context, I would say all could be T'able offenses. Same as "Are you kidding me?"

Exactly. I could say yes or no to each of those words/phrases, depending on the situation...

What about "ALLAH!!!" or JOBU!!!" or my personal favorite for those practicing pastafarianism "Flying Spaghetti Monster!!!" ?

Or, you could be like Kobe, who reportedly learned to swear in many different languages so as not to "offend the refs" or anyone else present in ear-shot.......unless of course they happen to speak/understand the language he was swearing in. :eek:

I've T'd 1,2,5,6,7. I've also ignored all of them at given times.

Further, I've T'd "sh!t," and ignored "Bull sh1t" once.

Of course, the BS reference was a coach standing next to me asking, "Isn't it a T if he says Bull sh!t like that?" I knew the hot head player he was talking about, but I hadn't heard the expletive.

So all of you consider the CONTEXT of the speech, not just the word itself. That is the position that I have advocated. However, the position of BZ is very different. He says that the context doesn't matter.

He seems to operate by a list of "magic words" that constitute profanity and will earn an automatic T.
Therefore, my post was aimed at getting people's opinions of which words were always T'able. I'm not after an answer of "depends on the context."

Thank you. That is the kind of information that I was seeking.
Anyone else got something such as that?

JUCO refs in Northern California have been told that swearing is NOT a T worthy offense.

I don't do JUCO but several officiating buddies do and they have told me about the email.....

I work JUCO games, and sometimes *I* feel like swearing...

So, during warmups, you overhear one player talking to his teammate about his science project, "Yea, I used my mom's vaccum cleaner to <B>suck</B> the air out of the chamber."

Would you start the game with a T? Would the state back you on this? Or, is context still important?

I'm unable to think of a word that's always T-able without regard to context. There is a catch-all context that I will never T for, regardless of the word.

"Ref, #24 just called me a stupid D@n_r3f."

:D

My vote for post of the week.

How about: "Ref, #24 said you are a stupid *$^&%#$."

(Actually, your correction is funnier.)

This is why saying that certain words or certain comments are and "automatic" foul only get you in trouble. What if a player says those things after blowing out their knee? Are you we going to be Mr. Tough Guy and T them up then?

I have probably heard all those words and not given a single T. The context was not about the officiating or the opponent in anyway. I have heard coaches use harsher or much more profane words and not given a T, because the comments were said to me one on one and were not about me personally. Like one time a coach said with a complete smile, "That kid could fu@kin play at all; can you find me someone else to take his spot?" No one heard the comments but me and the coach. Sorry, I am not giving a T for that.

Peace

I took the liberty. :)

In that case, as long as it wasn't followed by, "and your partner agreed."