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jevaque Tue Dec 23, 2008 03:24pm

2 person
 
should be easy to answer but i have not done 2 person in 5 yrs, so im curious. In two person do you long switch?? calling foul in backcourt going the other way..

Adam Tue Dec 23, 2008 03:30pm

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Originally Posted by jevaque (Post 561171)
should be easy to answer but i have not done 2 person in 5 yrs, so im curious. In two person do you long switch?? calling foul in backcourt going the other way..

Pregame it, but no, I don't.

cubsfanllw Tue Dec 23, 2008 03:38pm

we don't where i am

iref4him Tue Dec 23, 2008 03:50pm

BY the mechanics book, in 2-man you switch every time. It depends on your association. We do not long switch on any back court fouls.

jevaque Tue Dec 23, 2008 03:55pm

thats what i thought but my partner last night night said he always does. SO by the book in 2 person ur suppose to long switch??????

I know they changed it for 3 person a few yrs back not to long switch, but i thought they did for 2 person also

Ch1town Tue Dec 23, 2008 03:57pm

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Originally Posted by iref4him (Post 561182)
BY the mechanics book, in 2-man you switch every time. It depends on your association. We do not long switch on any back court fouls.

Haven't had to work much 2 person this season (God is good) but we switch on all fouls in 2 person.

BLS Tue Dec 23, 2008 03:59pm

By the book... you switch on every foul - including long switches. I'm still a rookie but any time I'm with a partner that works primarily 3-man, they don't want to long switch. Our association decided no long switches in 2-man.

Adam Tue Dec 23, 2008 04:03pm

I could have sworn they changed the book on this, but I can't find it. I do know long switches are frowned upon here.

Rich Tue Dec 23, 2008 05:09pm

We do it, with some rare spontaneous exceptions.

Back In The Saddle Tue Dec 23, 2008 06:18pm

I believe that a few years ago the NFHS flip-flopped on this, first removing it from 2 person, then restoring it a couple of years later. I always pre-game that we will not do the long switch. And it's not just to eliminate 50 unnecessary extra steps. It's to prevent both officials from remaining in the backcourt while all 10 players are headed to the front court. IMHO that's just not smart.

refnrev Tue Dec 23, 2008 06:30pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 561174)
Pregame it, but no, I don't.

Not if I can help it. I sure love 3 -whistle crews!

jdw3018 Tue Dec 23, 2008 06:30pm

I've never understood why the Fed has kept long switching in the 2-man mechanics. There's an exception in 3-man, may as well be in 2-man, too.

No long switches accomplishes two things - easier dead-ball officiating (one official gets to keep his eyes on the entire court without worrying about heading to the other end) and provides a more efficient process.

Currently the off-call official can choose to be an excellent dead-ball official by freezing until after the reporting and then heading to the other end, but that obviously comes at the expense of efficiency. Heading immediately to the other end comes at the expense of dead-ball officiating.

Enough rambling. You get my point. If you care at all. I certainly don't after wasting my time writing this. Glad I only work 3-man... :D

BillyMac Tue Dec 23, 2008 07:27pm

Only In The Land Of Steady Habits ...
 
CONNECTICUT (IAABO) MECHANICS:
Point to floor for two-point field goal try when shooter has foot touching three point line.
No long switches when foul is called in the backcourt and there is no change of possession or direction.
Team members are not allowed to congregate at midcourt during introductions. Officials will direct players to free throw line area in front of respective benches.
Coaching Box must be marked. If home coach and/or home management refuse to designate coaching box with tape, the home team will not use a coaching box for that game. However, the visiting team will be allowed a coaching box. Notify Board Secretary, or Commissioner the next day.

Nevadaref Wed Dec 24, 2008 09:13am

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Originally Posted by jevaque (Post 561191)
thats what i thought but my partner last night night said he always does. SO by the book in 2 person ur suppose to long switch??????

I know they changed it for 3 person a few yrs back not to long switch, but i thought they did for 2 person also

Yes, according to the NFHS officials manual the officials switch on each and every foul in 2-man. The no-long-switch exception is only for 3-man.

When I work 2-man, I switch every time.

I say do it right. If one is too lazy to hustle and give that effort, then one shouldn't be out there.

Rich Wed Dec 24, 2008 09:15am

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Originally Posted by jdw3018 (Post 561232)
Currently the off-call official can choose to be an excellent dead-ball official by freezing until after the reporting and then heading to the other end, but that obviously comes at the expense of efficiency. Heading immediately to the other end comes at the expense of dead-ball officiating.

You can keep your head on a swivel while moving and do both at the same time.


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