Correctable timing issue?
Team B scores a basket with 39 seconds on the clock towards the end of the 2nd quarter. Team A waits a few seconds before picking up the ball, and waits another few seconds before passing it in, knowing that if they inbound the ball with under 35 seconds they can hold for the last shot. Clock operators stop the clock on the made basket and start it again on the inbounds. Coach A and A1 (starting point guard, who is on the bench) notice right away and inform the officials. Is this correctable? or does team B (the home team, in this case) have a chance at another possession?
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The timing error is correctable, but the official would have to have a count of some kind, such as the throw-in count. |
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but the clock wouldn't stop after made basket in the last minute of any quarter but the fourth I believe. So in this case this is a timers mistake and the official is to correct the time on the clock. prior to all of this the official could start a count, you may determine it is at the disposal and not let them manipulate the time to gain an advantage. |
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Anyone know of any states that do this? |
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We use shot clock and the game clock never stops on a made basket. The most an official could take off would be 4.9 seconds as that would be the only count that would give definate knowledge.
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Counting in your head is not one of the official counts referred to 5-10-2 and therefore does NOT constitute definite knowledge. The counts needs to be visible and with all of the video that is being captured of games these days, you had darn well better be able to have the tape back you up if you make a timing correction. Some more carefree officials might count in their heads and claim that is okay, but the fact that there is no way to verify this count leaves them open to severe criticism and makes it difficult for an assignor to back them. I wouldn't advise anyone to do it that way. |
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Because if I'm counting (even unofficially), I'm using that count. Play: A inbounds into the FC with 20 seconds remaining. A1 holds the ball near the division line for the last shot, with no defensive pressure. Official keeps a mental count. After 6 seconds, someone shouts, "the clock didn't start." Official notices the clock is still at 20 and blows the whistle. You wouldn't set it to 14? |
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First, 5-10-2 stipulates "an official's count OR other official information." What else is other official information? I can't think of anything else (except for the few states, including mine, that use a shot clock -- and supposing that the 2 aren't wired to start and stop simultaneously). Second, I didn't think of this the first time I heard you say this, but how do you explain this: With 10 seconds left, A throws in into the front court. The official begins visibly counting (per your recommendation) in case of a timing error. The official judges a defender to not be closely guarding, but its debatable. When the count gets to five, how do you explain to B HC that there isn't a violation? The purpose of the visible count is to provide information, and typically, it's for situations such as these. |
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