Clock did not start
Opening tip last night, Girls V.
We are home and V wins the jump ball. Play goes on for a couple dribbles and passes and then we deflect the ball OOB. As R1 is administering throw in, timer his hitting the horn. Clock still reads 8:00. R1 comes over to table and instructs timer to run the clock down 10 seconds (after we plug in the hand held timer switch). Gets down to 7:51 and says "stop,thats fine" and walks away. Test---What did CoachP do? a) Whip out the rule book and show R1 he needed definite knowledge. b) Sit there and say nothing Halftime- we are up 41 - 6 and R2 calls a foul on A1 her 3rd. R2 says to me next trip down, "We are calling it much tighter on you this half. Final 57-22 |
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Was a certain poster from this forum one of your officials? :eek:
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-Josh |
A... and you lost your box for the remainder of the game. ;)
It's possible he had definite knowledge. Whose to say he didn't? |
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Is there a difference between "definite" and "precise" knowledge? Could I definitely know that about 10 seconds should come off the clock?
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the more exact number tends to limit prople from asking questions about how much ran off rather than a round number. Now this was at the college level and we are also told to estimate if we are not sure so this might not be the thing to do at the Fed level but it is very effective. |
I do think it's easier to be less critical of the clock not starting at the opening tip of a game than to use the same thinking in a tie game, 7 seconds to go.
Either way, it's sounds like it should be "automatic" that one official is always checking the clock on all would-be-starts...correct? |
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Unfortunately, most officials don't take it too seriously. They just hold up a hand and then chop without ever looking to see if the clock actually starts. :( |
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Peace |
The phrase in the book on this issue is "definite information relative to the time involved." I personally don't think a sentence containing "about" or "at least" could be considered definite information. But forget about the books for a minute. Common sense tells us that in this case 8:00 left on the clock cannot be correct. But why tinker with the rule if you don't have a count on how much time to take off? A few extra seconds on the clock at the beginning of a quarter does not provide an advantage or disadvantage for either team. Forget it and move on.
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It's more likely that that official will "have time" to check the clock.. |
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