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Occupying Free throw Spaces
I'm sure this has been covered but I was just corrected in a game tonight by my partner so I want to confirm the call...learn.
I was administrating the free throw (one shot/&1). A is shooting and A's players decide not to occupy the second lane spaces...all four of B's players were in their respective lane spaces. I informed the two B players (close to shooter) that they could take the second lane spaces vacated by A. My partner (in T) jumped in and immediately told the B players that they had to remain in their spaces...further stating to me that "that's incorrect and whoever told you that was WRONG"...in front of all the players and anyone else within earshot. Since my partner had over 15 yrs experience doing college and HS I did not challenge the correction (I've only got 3 yrs experience). I did say later that I thought the players from B could occupy any of the 3 lane spaces. My partner just said no. I tried to find it in the rules book but could only find a reference to it in the HS casebook 8.1.4. This was a HS JV game. Wrong or Right? |
Team B MUST occupy the first lane space above the block. Team A MAY occupy the second lane spaces. Team B MAY occupy the third and final marked lane spaces.
I only have my 07-08 rule book on hand, but it should be the same rule citation. Rule 8-1-4(e) says players may move along and across the lane to occupy a vacant space within the above limitation. Team B may have up to four (and at least two) players lined up on the lane. Team A may have up to two (or none, if they so choose). Now, if A1 already had the ball at his disposal, the Team B players could not move, as doing so would constitute a violation. |
Thanks
I only had my 07/08 rule book with me at the game. I pulled my case book when I got home and it states (last sentence of 8.1.4 situation), "Four defensive players are permitted in any of the first three vacant marked lane spaces". The rules don't really make it clear other than using the words "shall" and "May". Thanks for the reply. |
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Your partner was WRONG! In an NFHS or NCAAM game the players may move and fill vacant lane spaces, except for the bottom two which MUST be occupied by the nonshooting team when players are allowed along the lane. In an NCAAW game the spaces are designated and only the one team is allowed to fill those spots. No movement is permitted. Direct your partner to read 8-1-4 (f). |
This was on the Part II this year as well.
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Thanks for the feedback. I will be cautious on how I discuss this with my vet partner for he is a good official.
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In the future, try to avoid that. It's one thing if they ask, but another if it's volunteered information. ;) |
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Two violations here by your "veteran" partner: (1) having the rule wrong, (2) being an azz about it.
Reminds me of Jim Evans's comment about "veterans": does he have 15 years' experience, or 1 year's experience 15 times? |
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Can someone further clarify one more point on this? If FT shooter's opponents for some reason choose not to fill the first spaces, can FT shooter's teammates take them?
8-1-4 uses "shall" (not) in c. and it's not clear if that means "may never," given the use of "may" in d. |
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I always convert "shall not" to "is not permitted to" when I read a rule. |
I am continually amazed at the misunderstandings over the lane. I had a newbie tell me last week that all the spaces had to be filled before the shooter could shoot. I told him that was not right. When he told me which of his partners told him that I was surprised. However, in retrospect, it was the same guy that I corrected one night by telling hiom it was not possible for the thrower to travel on a throw-in.
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He Still Has A Chance To Win ...
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"No teammate of the free thrower shall occupy either of these marked lane spaces." |
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Would this be a violation?
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No violation. If nothing else, slap a 2-3 on it. A team shall not be required to do the impossible. |
Or check the NFHS interps for this situation! ;)
2003-04 NFHS BASKETBALL RULES INTERPRETATIONS SITUATION 2: Team A started the game with seven team members in the scorebook. All team members foul out but one, A1. Team A is leading by eight points with 38 seconds left in the game with a chance to win. A1 fouls B2 with Team B in the bonus. A1 occupies one of the first marked lane spaces for the free throw, with no teammate to occupy the other required space. RULING: By rule, a team may continue to play with one player if that team has an opportunity to win the game. Accordingly, since Team A can only put one player in the required free-throw marked lane space, it cannot be penalized. Further, Team B may not occupy the first marked lane space left vacant by Team A. (3-1-1 Note, 8-1-3) |
Amazin' ...
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I know the author of that interp. ;)
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