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Adam Wed Dec 10, 2008 04:51pm

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Originally Posted by cmckenna (Post 557124)
Do you need a key for this?:D

Nah, I keep them in my pocket all the time.

Juulie Downs Wed Dec 10, 2008 04:56pm

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Originally Posted by Skarecrow (Post 557106)
Rule 7.5.1 indicates that we start with the ROP procedure when a team doesn't provide a thrower after a timeout or the intermission between any quarter (including the start of the 3rd quarter). It is a technical if that team continues to violate...Am I wrong?

ROP doesn't apply at half-time when the team is refusing to get to the playing area. It applies if they're up from the dressing room, but not getting out onto the court ready to play (still huddling at the bench).

jdmara Wed Dec 10, 2008 05:19pm

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Originally Posted by cmckenna (Post 557124)
Do you need a key for this?:D

It's always there, just need to break the glass to get at it. Good catch, btw. I didn't even know I made that flub.

-Josh

Skarecrow Wed Dec 10, 2008 09:15pm

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Originally Posted by Ch1town (Post 557111)
I'm thinking 10-1-5(a) trumps 7-5-1

Notice the - for rules & . for case plays

10-1-5 b trumps 10-1-5 a, doesn't it?

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:56pm

BITS's last post of yesterday evening gives a very good description of how to handle this situation.

Speaking per NFHS Rules, the rules that we should be looking at are: R5-S4-A1, R7-S5-A1, and R10-S1-A5a. R7-S5-A1 does not apply because it presumes that both teams are at courtside. That leaves R5-S4-A1 and R10-S1-A5a that apply to this situation. R10-S1-A5a is the primary rule to apply in this situation. First charge Team B per R10-S1-A5a and shoot the TF free throws; then if Team B still refuses to play, forfeit the game to Team A.

MTD, Sr.

Texas Aggie Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:19pm

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Personally, I don't think I'd "decalre" a forfeit. I'd suspend the game and leave
5-4-1: The R SHALL forfeit ... if a team refuses to play... . The R may also forfeit ... (other situations).

In other words, if they don't come out, its a forfeit no matter what (SHALL). For every other instance, you'd be 100% correct -- suspend and let the others deal with it.


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