3-Person Mechanics - NFHS
 

Mechanics change year-to-year ("move to improve").....but Fed changes only occur every two years....however, state associations can include their adaptations, if they choose. Here's my question:

In 3-Person.....Does the Lead official have three-point try responsibilities from the near sideline corner to the near free-throw line extended?
I think this is a FALSE statement.

However, some claim it's TRUE because mechanically, crews pre-game the sitch as Lead will assist C or T "in transition". The reference, 3.3.4 (B5), in the Fed Officials Manual is vague and to the best that I can interpret it.....I'd say the statement is FALSE. Anyone want to give me their take?

I believe on a long pass or something like that, the lead can signal a three, but that is something discussed by the crew in pre game

That is a NCAA womens mechanic, but yes on a fast break the Lead can signal that it is a 3 try until the Trail can pick it up and then the Lead goes back to their normal court coverage!

3 person mechanics test #53. The answer key lists it as true and the reference as 3.3.4.B.3.

That said I will not put True. The question does not say 'in transition'. Also if you are in transition, it wouldn't just be the Lead's responsibility up until the free-throw line. It would probably go up even higher on the three-point arc.

Agreed.

Mechanics are guides they are not absolutes in most situations. This is not the primary responsibility of the Lead, but could be a secondary coverage for the Lead if need be. This is something mostly common in transition where the Lead is much closer to the ball and has a much better angle. But this would mostly be a rare situation to be used.

Peace

Lead has no primary responsibility outside the arc.

The key?

I like how I have to fill out a bubble form for the same test we completed last year. :)

This is interesting because I did my first varsity game of the season (working a schedule heavy on 2-man sub-varsity with some 3-man varsity mixed in). I've got two separate court-coverage charts, one showing lead having primary coverage of this area, one showing the primary coverage area ending at the 3-point arc.

I asked my partners how they would call it as they've done 3-man more than I have and they suggested that you be aware of (i.e., secondary coverage) the shot deep in the corner (agreeing, I think, with the discussion here so far), but don't get caught out there if the action swings back quickly to the interior. They also suggested that you indicate a three-point shot, make sure it's picked up by C or T, then drop it without indicating a good basket.

My personal preference, but if I indicate a 3-point attempt -- even from the Lead -- I'm putting up the touchdown signal.

I'm not...I give the 3 signal to help my partners but I'm not signalling the successful attempt. I getting my eyes down and in the paint for rebounding action.

I try to follow the recommended mechanic, also.

What rebounding? It's a successful attempt. And even if there is rebounding action, you can't do both? :confused: Wouldn't you do both if you were the T or C? What am I missing? What's the connection? Why can't I stop asking questions?

I think that it is the recommended mechanic to give the TD signal, once you have given the attempt signal, regardless of your position on the floor.

I think that's just 2-whistle, where the Lead actually scores the three.

your eyes should be on the rebounders before the ball gets to the basket.:)

Basically because the mechanic for the lead is not to give the successful signal. My question (I'll only ask one :) ) is why would you feel the need to give the touchdown signal when you already have 2 other officials doing so?

But they can't be on the rebounders if you have the shooter and have to make sure he/she is able to land safely without being fouled...which is the whole point of this topic - should the L have the shooter way out there.

And the only reason I see for the L to ever give the TD signal is if the either the T or C (or both) do not give the signal.

My partner last night on a frosh game had a mechanic that was new to me. When the last FT went up, he would raise his hand to start the clock. If the shot went in, he raised the other hand, as if it were 3 points! :eek:

I've always been told that the L has no 3-point responsibilities whatsoever as far as primary coverage goes. We go off of the chart that's in the NFHS manual with the L's coverage ending at the 3-point line and the Trail's coverage going all the way to the corner outside of the arc.

I did see the L in an NBA game last night give the preliminary 3-point signal though. I know, I know, the NBA is different.

Officials Manual 3.3.4B. Three-Point Try 5 - "Lead has responsibility to assist Center and Trail in transition."

Hence the reason I said primary coverage. I wasn't talking about transition.

I concur.....even on the NCCA-W side, we signal the 3 point attempt, but dont give the TD signal. Trail does it and the Center mirrors.....

Spin it any way you wish.
Tryin' to help.

You have never had a foul on a player going for a possible rebound on a made basket?

Apparently, you stopped reading before getting to:

Just sayin'. ;)

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

I'm with the Welschman. :confused:

Yeah, I forgot to ask that guy what the heck he was doing... game ended with one of the scorekeepers chasing me off the floor complaining about the wrong kid shooting FT's (he was wrong about that), so I was a little distracted by that.