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fiasco Wed Dec 03, 2008 01:14pm
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Originally Posted by Ch1town (Post 555020)
Oh really? I know it's early in the season, but work on that before you develop a reputation that you dont want to have. No coach rides me or any of my partners. Take care of business!
Again, we're talking semantics.

Trust me, I don't have the reputation for getting "ridden" as you are interpreting the word to be used.

Ch1town Wed Dec 03, 2008 01:22pm
Excellent! I feel so bad for those officials... but when I look at their on-court presence, if I were a coach I'd ride them too.

CoachP Wed Dec 03, 2008 01:23pm
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Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch (Post 555002)
And the captains and coaches will know who the referee is when he/she introduces him/herself to them as such during the pregame powwow.
Pre game introduction away game last night. "Coach, I'm soandso and this is soandso...I don't see very well and he don't hear very well so use a visual and a verbal for all your time outs"

Adam Wed Dec 03, 2008 01:26pm
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Originally Posted by CoachP (Post 555027)
Pre game introduction away game last night. "Coach, I'm soandso and this is soandso...I don't see very well and he don't hear very well so use a visual and a verbal for all your time outs"
That's beautiful.

Rich Wed Dec 03, 2008 01:39pm
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Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 555010)
Coaches aren't stupid, though. They can tell who is in charge by who is talking to them, who is tossing the ball, who is taking the ball OOB at the beginning of quarters.

That's why I get ridden by coaches more when I'm the ref than when I'm the ump, even when I said nothing to the coach about our assigned duties.
They can tell who is in charge by how they present themselves on the court, not by who throws up the opening jump or who conducts the captain's meeting.

I've been at this more than 20 years and I have never once used "I am the referee" for anything on the court. Maybe someone else here has a different experience.

CoachP Wed Dec 03, 2008 01:45pm
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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 555037)
They can tell who is in charge by how they present themselves on the court, not by who throws up the opening jump or who conducts the captain's meeting.

I've been at this more than 20 years and I have never once used "I am the referee" for anything on the court. Maybe someone else here has a different experience.
They did not introduce themselves as either/or in my game last night..and if you were to ask me which one did the toss 10 seconds into the game, it would be a 50-50 guess.

I'd hope it was the hard of hearing one. Or maybe it was Mick...I dunno.

Rich Wed Dec 03, 2008 01:56pm
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Originally Posted by CoachP (Post 555040)
They did not introduce themselves as either/or in my game last night..and if you were to ask me which one did the toss 10 seconds into the game, it would be a 50-50 guess.

I'd hope it was the hard of hearing one. Or maybe it was Mick...I dunno.
We simply take turns. One of our regular partners (I swear) must keep a spreadsheet or something cause he knows immediately whose turn it is whether working 2-person or 3-person (our regular 3, which causes a separate "list"). We make fun of this.

Personally, I'd be the R every game. No deal to me. I like starting as the trail.

GoodwillRef Wed Dec 03, 2008 02:06pm
I am 6'4" and I was the referee on a game this summer at a camp I was attending and the clinician made a good point that unless both players are taller than me that I shouldn't toss the ball. It does make a lot of sense if you think about it.

Adam Wed Dec 03, 2008 02:09pm
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Originally Posted by GoodwillRef (Post 555044)
I am 6'4" and I was the referee on a game this summer at a camp I was attending and the clinician made a good point that unless both players are taller than me that I shouldn't toss the ball. It does make a lot of sense if you think about it.
Help me out here. How?

mbyron Wed Dec 03, 2008 02:11pm
By this logic, I can never toss again for middle school and below. :confused:

Back In The Saddle Wed Dec 03, 2008 02:34pm
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Originally Posted by GoodwillRef (Post 555044)
I am 6'4" and I was the referee on a game this summer at a camp I was attending and the clinician made a good point that unless both players are taller than me that I shouldn't toss the ball. It does make a lot of sense if you think about it.
I agree. If they're both shorter, just hold the ball up between them and drop it :D

Rich Wed Dec 03, 2008 02:47pm
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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 555059)
I agree. If they're both shorter, just hold the ball up between them and drop it :D
That thought has crossed my mind before.

Being 5'9" and working only varsity basketball, though, I don't think a jumper is ever shorter than me anymore. Boys or girls.

GoodwillRef Wed Dec 03, 2008 02:59pm
The point is that because I am so tall it looks like I am towering over the players when I work a women's college or high school girl's game.

OHBBREF Wed Dec 03, 2008 03:03pm
back on topic
 
NCAA
Rule 2 Section 6 Art 1
Be responsible for designating which official shall toss for the jump ball (s)

mbyron Wed Dec 03, 2008 03:03pm
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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 555059)
I agree. If they're both shorter, just hold the ball up between them and drop it :D
Ah. I see the problem. I was reading that as "I shouldn't toss it," and the point was that "I shouldn't toss it."


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