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cubsfanllw Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:04am

2 Situations
 
Boys Varsity

1) a1 dribbles into the frontcourt and is "trapped" as he crosses the line (all 3 pts in frontcourt). without stepping into the backcourt, throws a bounce pass to a2 who is in the frontcourt near the division line. the "bounce" part of the bounce pass is clearly in the backcourt (A2 reaches across and catches it). I didn't call anything, but should this have been a BC violation?

2) pretty sure i kicked this one. a1 going in for layup. b1 is trailing and while try is in the air, but not "on the cylinder", b1 slaps the backboard on the opposite side of the rim for where a1 is shooting. i didn't call anything, but looked at the nfhs rulebook afterwards and it looked like i should have called a "T". did i kick it?

Ch1town Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:09am

Unfortunately, you sent both of those calls to the 8th row. But now you own those 2 rules! As long as we learn from our mistakes, it's not a bad thing.

mbyron Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:06pm

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Originally Posted by cubsfanllw (Post 554941)
2) pretty sure i kicked this one. a1 going in for layup. b1 is trailing and while try is in the air, but not "on the cylinder", b1 slaps the backboard on the opposite side of the rim for where a1 is shooting. i didn't call anything, but looked at the nfhs rulebook afterwards and it looked like i should have called a "T". did i kick it?

It's not clear to me that this is a T.

Adam Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:08pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 554976)
It's not clear to me that this is a T.

Why, it's not an attempt at a block?

Mark Padgett Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 554976)
It's not clear to me that this is a T.

Since it says the defender slapped the backboard on the opposite side from where the shot was, it's doubtful this was a block attempt. Sounds like a T to me. Of course, as usual, HTBT.

mbyron Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:09pm

OK, now it's clear. TATF.

CoachP Wed Dec 03, 2008 02:31pm

So , "Automatic" T??

;)

Adam Wed Dec 03, 2008 02:34pm

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Originally Posted by CoachP (Post 555056)
So , "Automatic" T??

;)

I don't normally tell coaches to shut up, but M&M keeps telling me to.

Nevadaref Wed Dec 03, 2008 08:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by cubsfanllw (Post 554941)
Boys Varsity

1) a1 dribbles into the frontcourt and is "trapped" as he crosses the line (all 3 pts in frontcourt). without stepping into the backcourt, throws a bounce pass to a2 who is in the frontcourt near the division line. the "bounce" part of the bounce pass is clearly in the backcourt (A2 reaches across and catches it). I didn't call anything, but should this have been a BC violation?

We had a LONG discussion about this play last year. To my knowledge the NFHS has never issued a clarification. The vast majority of us here believe that this play is a violation per 9-9-1 in the rules book. The NCAA has a specific approved ruling stating that this is a violation.
Take a look at this thread:
http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...backcourt.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by cubsfanllw (Post 554941)
2) pretty sure i kicked this one. a1 going in for layup. b1 is trailing and while try is in the air, but not "on the cylinder", b1 slaps the backboard on the opposite side of the rim for where a1 is shooting. i didn't call anything, but looked at the nfhs rulebook afterwards and it looked like i should have called a "T". did i kick it?

This is a Point of Emphasis this season.

2008-09 POINTS OF EMPHASIS
...
4.
SLAPPING THE BACKBOARD. The incidents of players slapping the backboard are increasing throughout the country. The rules specify that "intentionally slapping or striking the backboard" is a technical foul (10-3-5). The spirit and intent of that rule is to penalize a player for drawing attention to him/herself or as a means of venting frustration. A player who strikes the backboard in a legitimate attempt to block a try for goal should not be penalized. Basket interference cannot be ruled in either of the above situations. Basket interference only occurs if the ball is interfered with while in the cylinder above the basket ring or by touching either the ball or any part of the basket while the ball is on or within the basket (4-6).


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