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OHBBREF Fri Nov 07, 2008 04:27pm

FT situation
 
Player A1 is shooting two free throws for a direct technical foul assessed to
B1. Right after the official hands the ball to A1, A2 flagrantly pushes B2. The official calls a flagrant foul on A2 and ejects him/her. The officials have no players lined up for A1's two free throws or for B2's two free throws and after B2 shoots, the officials award the ball to team B for a throw-in nearest to where the foul occurred Are the officials correct?

use both FED and NCAA

Bad Zebra Fri Nov 07, 2008 04:34pm

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Originally Posted by OHBBREF (Post 549140)
Player A1 is shooting two free throws for a direct technical foul assessed to
B1. Right after the official hands the ball to A1, A2 flagrantly pushes B2. The official calls a flagrant foul on A2 and ejects him/her. The officials have no players lined up for A1's two free throws or for B2's two free throws and after B2 shoots, the officials award the ball to team B for a throw-in nearest to where the foul occurred Are the officials correct?

use both FED and NCAA

My thinking: (Fed) As the foul on A2 occured during a dead ball, it would by rule be a flagrant technical foul. Therefore the officials are incorrect in that the Team B throw in should occur at the division line opposite table.

eg-italy Fri Nov 07, 2008 05:16pm

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Originally Posted by Bad Zebra (Post 549145)
My thinking: (Fed) As the foul on A2 occured during a dead ball, it would by rule be a flagrant technical foul. Therefore the officials are incorrect in that the Team B throw in should occur at the division line opposite table.

I don't think that the ball is dead after it has been handed to the free thrower.

Ciao

Bad Zebra Fri Nov 07, 2008 05:22pm

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Originally Posted by eg-italy (Post 549151)
I don't think that the ball is dead after it has been handed to the free thrower.

Ciao

Good point. That would then have a material affect on the throw in location.

Back In The Saddle Fri Nov 07, 2008 07:22pm

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Originally Posted by Bad Zebra (Post 549152)
Good point. That would then have a material affect on the throw in location.

It would also affect who may shoot B's free throws.

Nevadaref Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:03pm

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Originally Posted by OHBBREF (Post 549140)
Player A1 is shooting two free throws for a direct technical foul assessed to
B1. Right after the official hands the ball to A1, A2 flagrantly pushes B2. The official calls a flagrant foul on A2 and ejects him/her. The officials have no players lined up for A1's two free throws or for B2's two free throws and after B2 shoots, the officials award the ball to team B for a throw-in nearest to where the foul occurred Are the officials correct?

use both FED and NCAA

NFHS: The officials are correct.
NCAA-M: The officials are correct.
NCAA-W: I need to check.

PS Could Juulie please give a lesson on the proper usage of and difference between affect and effect? :)

bob jenkins Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:05pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 549208)
NFHS: The officials are correct.
NCAA-M: The officials are correct.
NCAA-W: I need to check.


NCAAW: Same as NCAAM

Adam Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:06pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 549208)
NFHS: The officials are correct.
NCAA-M: The officials are correct.
NCAA-W: I need to check.

PS Could Juulie please give a lesson on the proper usage of and difference between affect and effect? :)

I can help. :)

Affect is a verb.
Effect is a noun.

Thus endeth today's grammar lesson.

Nevadaref Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:12pm

You're no Juulie!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 549213)
I can help. :)

Affect is a verb.
Effect is a noun.

Thus endeth today's grammar lesson.

Nope, both can be used as either a noun or a verb. :(

Adam Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:17pm

There is only one Juulie.
 
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 549219)
Nope, both can be used as either a noun or a verb. :(

Found here.

usage Effect and affect are often confused because of their similar spelling and pronunciation. The verb 2affect usually has to do with pretense <she affected a cheery disposition despite feeling down>. The more common 3affect denotes having an effect or influence <the weather affected everyone's mood>. The verb effect goes beyond mere influence; it refers to actual achievement of a final result <the new administration hopes to effect a peace settlement>. The uncommon noun affect, which has a meaning relating to psychology, is also sometimes mistakenly used for the very common effect. In ordinary use, the noun you will want is effect <waiting for the new law to take effect> <the weather had an effect on everyone's mood>.

So for the purposes of this discussion, my statement was correct, even though it left the uncommon usages out.


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