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[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Lah Me

And remember that immediate retaliation is always part of a double foul no matter when you blow your whistle. The first foul called during a live ball (personal for contact...technical for non-contact) determines the type of double foul to be called.

This one, as far as I'm concerned is waaaaay out there. There's all kinds of ways to immediately retaliate for something. B1 fouls A1. The ball is now dead.
For whatever reason, A1 is upset and immediately retaliates. This retaliation could be anything. A1 might push him, punch him, curse him or spit on him. But none of these would be a double foul.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

It has appeared that we, myself included, has hijacked this thread for a Casebook Play that is not really germain to the original post. And I don't Bob Jenkins, our moderater, would mind if I suggest that we move this discussion to a thread that was started by Nevada on Sep. 27/Sat.(07:22amGMT), 2008: NEW Case Book play 2.10.1 Situation A.

I intend to make all further posts regarding this Casebook Play in the above mentioned thread. So that we can get back to posting, if anybody so desires, about the original post in THIS thread.

I apologize to mu4scott for being a major player if not "the" major player in hijacking this thread.

Having said that I want everybody to have a great Sunday. Go Steelers!

And yesterday wasn't to bad either: the Youngstown State Penguins and The Ohio State Buckeyes won, the Western Illionois Leathernecks lost, but the Michigan Wolverines won. Three out of four isn't bad. Ready for the big games in two weeks Rut, ?

MTD, Sr.

[OHBBREF]

Well first if the Ref gets the violation on the shooter we probably do not see this play evolve the way it does on film.

I do not see that you can get a fight out of this, since there is no retaliation and while it is a train wreck the contact is not that severe - however I think you could get an intentional out of it, it is a non basketball play that results in a dangerous situation. and as soon as that kid stood up and smirked you could whack him if you chose and eject him.
At the least at the end of this sequence I'm talking to his coach to get him out of the game for his own good.

This is one of those situations where if you deal with the initial issue you do not most likely have the second issue.