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rsl Fri Oct 31, 2008 08:24am

2.10.3
 
This is my first post... but I have been a lurker for a while.

While studying for my test (which I just submitted and luckily passed),
I came across 2.10.3:

Art. 3... If in Article 1e the error is made while the clock is running and the ball dead, it must be recognized by an official before the second live ball.

When and why would the clock be running during a dead ball?

Thanks in advance!

JugglingReferee Fri Oct 31, 2008 08:26am

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsl (Post 547534)
This is my first post... but I have been a lurker for a while.

While studying for my test (which I just submitted and luckily passed),
I came across 2.10.3:

Art. 3... If in Article 1e the error is made while the clock is running and the ball dead, it must be recognized by an official before the second live ball.

When and why would the clock be running during a dead ball?

Thanks in advance!

The ball is dead after a made basket, until B has the ball OB again for the throw-in; all the while the clock is running.

Adam Fri Oct 31, 2008 08:27am

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsl (Post 547534)
This is my first post... but I have been a lurker for a while.

While studying for my test (which I just submitted and luckily passed),
I came across 2.10.3:

Art. 3... If in Article 1e the error is made while the clock is running and the ball dead, it must be recognized by an official before the second live ball.

When and why would the clock be running during a dead ball?

Thanks in advance!

Look up when the ball becomes dead. That should answer your question.

Raymond Fri Oct 31, 2008 08:30am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 547536)
The ball is dead after a made basket, until B has the ball OB again for the throw-in; all the while the clock is running.

Should read "the ball at its disposal". :)

bob jenkins Fri Oct 31, 2008 08:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsl (Post 547534)
This is my first post... but I have been a lurker for a while.

While studying for my test (which I just submitted and luckily passed),
I came across 2.10.3:

Art. 3... If in Article 1e the error is made while the clock is running and the ball dead, it must be recognized by an official before the second live ball.

When and why would the clock be running during a dead ball?

Thanks in advance!

Just to pile on ;)

The status of the ball (live / dead) and the staus of the clock (running / stopped) have nothing to do with each other.

You can have:

- live ball / running clock ("normal play")
- live ball / stopped clock (throw-in or FT)
- dead ball / running clock (after a basket)
- dead ball / stopped clock ("normal" stoppages)

grunewar Fri Oct 31, 2008 08:54am

rsl - AND, welcome to the Forum. Glad you jumped in......tread lightly. ;) Also, congrats on passing your test - good luck on your season!

Back In The Saddle Fri Oct 31, 2008 05:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 547540)
Just to pile on ;)

The status of the ball (live / dead) and the staus of the clock (running / stopped) have nothing to do with each other.

You can have:

- live ball / running clock ("normal play")
- live ball / stopped clock (throw-in or FT)
- dead ball / running clock (after a basket)
- dead ball / stopped clock ("normal" stoppages)

Don't forget the jump ball in the live ball/stopped clock category. In fact, there are only three ways to get a dead ball live, and all three of them begin with a live ball and a stopped clock.

Adam Fri Oct 31, 2008 05:10pm

So when the offense takes it in at the top of the key, does the clock start on the check or on the pass?

BillyMac Fri Oct 31, 2008 06:26pm

Has anyone ever heard of a Welcome Wagon ???
 
Welcome to the jungle, I mean, Forum.

Back In The Saddle Fri Oct 31, 2008 06:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 547803)
So when the offense takes it in at the top of the key, does the clock start on the check or on the pass?

Duh. It starts when the pass after the check is legally touched.

You're not too good at all this rules stuff, are ya? ;)

Back In The Saddle Fri Oct 31, 2008 06:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 547823)
Welcome to the jungle, I mean, Forum.

I was once run off the road by the welcome wagon.

Adam Fri Oct 31, 2008 06:30pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 547824)
Duh. It starts when the pass after the check is legally touched.

You're not too good at all this rules stuff, are ya? ;)

That hurts. Why must you be so hurtful?

Back In The Saddle Fri Oct 31, 2008 06:39pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 547829)
That hurts. Why must you be so hurtful?

I was unloved as a child. Same reason I referee.

Adam Fri Oct 31, 2008 08:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 547837)
I was unloved as a child. Same reason I referee.

Cool. Me, too. Well, except for the unloved as a child part.

bob jenkins Fri Oct 31, 2008 08:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 547802)
Don't forget the jump ball in the live ball/stopped clock category. In fact, there are only three ways to get a dead ball live, and all three of them begin with a live ball and a stopped clock.


My list was intended to be examples, not all-inclusive


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