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This is my first post... but I have been a lurker for a while.

While studying for my test (which I just submitted and luckily passed),
I came across 2.10.3:

Art. 3... If in Article 1e the error is made while the clock is running and the ball dead, it must be recognized by an official before the second live ball.

When and why would the clock be running during a dead ball?

Thanks in advance!

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Originally Posted by rsl (Post 547534)

The ball is dead after a made basket, until B has the ball OB again for the throw-in; all the while the clock is running.

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Originally Posted by rsl (Post 547534)

Look up when the ball becomes dead. That should answer your question.

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 547536)

The ball is dead after a made basket, until B has the ball OB again for the throw-in; all the while the clock is running.

Should read "the ball at its disposal". :)

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Originally Posted by rsl (Post 547534)

Just to pile on ;)

The status of the ball (live / dead) and the staus of the clock (running / stopped) have nothing to do with each other.

You can have:

- live ball / running clock ("normal play")
- live ball / stopped clock (throw-in or FT)
- dead ball / running clock (after a basket)
- dead ball / stopped clock ("normal" stoppages)

rsl - AND, welcome to the Forum. Glad you jumped in......tread lightly. ;) Also, congrats on passing your test - good luck on your season!

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 547540)

Don't forget the jump ball in the live ball/stopped clock category. In fact, there are only three ways to get a dead ball live, and all three of them begin with a live ball and a stopped clock.

So when the offense takes it in at the top of the key, does the clock start on the check or on the pass?

Has anyone ever heard of a Welcome Wagon ???

Welcome to the jungle, I mean, Forum.

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 547803)

So when the offense takes it in at the top of the key, does the clock start on the check or on the pass?

Duh. It starts when the pass after the check is legally touched.

You're not too good at all this rules stuff, are ya? ;)

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 547823)

Welcome to the jungle, I mean, Forum.

I was once run off the road by the welcome wagon.

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 547824)

Duh. It starts when the pass after the check is legally touched.

You're not too good at all this rules stuff, are ya? ;)

That hurts. Why must you be so hurtful?

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 547829)

That hurts. Why must you be so hurtful?

I was unloved as a child. Same reason I referee.

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 547837)

I was unloved as a child. Same reason I referee.

Cool. Me, too. Well, except for the unloved as a child part.

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 547802)

Don't forget the jump ball in the live ball/stopped clock category. In fact, there are only three ways to get a dead ball live, and all three of them begin with a live ball and a stopped clock.

My list was intended to be examples, not all-inclusive

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 547862)

My list was intended to be examples, not all-inclusive

Yeah, I realized that. And obviously you already know everything I added. My post was really for the benefit of our new friend.

Live Ball/Clock Stopped already made sense, but now
I get Dead Ball/Clock Running as well.

And I have that warm fuzzy welcome wagon feeling.

Thanks to all!

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Originally Posted by rsl (Post 547534)

And an example of an official making an error with the clock running and the ball dead that would be correctable until the second live ball is failing to properly signal for a successful three-point try or incorrectly indicating that a made goal was worth only two points when it actually was a three point try.

2.10.1 SITUATION J: A1 attempts a goal from behind the three-point line: (a) but the covering official fails to give the successful signal after the ball goes through the basket, and the scorer records only two points; or (b) and the covering official gives the successful signal, but the scorer records only two points. Team B inbounds the ball and proceeds to score. The coach of Team A goes to the table and requests a 60-second time-out to discuss the error. RULING: In (a), the error of not awarding three points is correctable as it was detected prior to the second live ball after the error. The extra point is scored, the 60-second time-out is not charged and the game continues from the point of interruption. In (b), it is a mistake by the scorer which can be corrected any time until the final score has been approved.