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ibumgardner Tue Oct 07, 2008 03:19pm

3 point line/arc
 
I was looking at the 3 point markings on a high school basketball court yesterday and realized that they aren't correct. By rule, the 3 point 'line' must be 19' 9" from the center of the basket (NCAA women and HS). However, once the arc is 'directly across' from the goal, the arc straightens until it reaches the baseline. This means that the closer you are to the baseline, the farther the distance is to the basket from behind the arc. So, when I got home, I took out my calculator and did some calculations. Since the center of the basket is 63" from the baseline, a shot taken from the baseline behind the arc is approximately 20' 5.24" (more 8" farther than shot from top of key). For those that are interested, the math for the distance is fairly simple (right triangle with legs 63" and 19'9"…find the hypotenuse).

I wonder if anyone has actually taken this into consideration. Heck, the NCAA rules committee decided to change the distance by a little more than that for the men but not the women. So, the distance does make a difference.

Thoughts?

JRutledge Tue Oct 07, 2008 03:22pm

You really have too much time on your hands. ;)

Peace

Back In The Saddle Tue Oct 07, 2008 03:24pm

I noticed this many years ago, never thought it was significant. Because you're behind the backboard, at some point it becomes more difficult to make that basket with the backboard in the way. But I don't know where that point is. Camron will probably be along soon with his protractor to tell us. :D

CoachP Tue Oct 07, 2008 03:44pm

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Originally Posted by ibumgardner (Post 541782)
I was looking at the 3 point markings on a high school basketball court yesterday and realized that they aren't correct. By rule, the 3 point 'line' must be 19' 9" from the center of the basket (NCAA women and HS). However, once the arc is 'directly across' from the goal, the arc straightens until it reaches the baseline. This means that the closer you are to the baseline, the farther the distance is to the basket from behind the arc. So, when I got home, I took out my calculator and did some calculations. Since the center of the basket is 63" from the baseline, a shot taken from the baseline behind the arc is approximately 20' 5.24" (more 8" farther than shot from top of key). For those that are interested, the math for the distance is fairly simple (right triangle with legs 63" and 19'9"…find the hypotenuse).

I wonder if anyone has actually taken this into consideration. Heck, the NCAA rules committee decided to change the distance by a little more than that for the men but not the women. So, the distance does make a difference.

Thoughts?

Yabut, the rule describes/clarifies those 63 inches and refers you to the official rulebook drawing. I don't read anywhere by rule the 3 point shot is 19'9", I read how the lines should be laid out and anything beyond those lines is a 3 point attempt.

JugglingReferee Tue Oct 07, 2008 06:53pm

OP is correct, just like are football fields really 110 yards (or 100 for you yankees) long? The 55 yard line (50 for yanks) should be infinitesimally thin, or the middle of the line is what is used.

bob jenkins Wed Oct 08, 2008 08:21am

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 541811)
OP is correct, just like are football fields really 110 yards (or 100 for you yankees) long? The 55 yard line (50 for yanks) should be infinitesimally thin, or the middle of the line is what is used.


The math might be right, but the premise ("a constant 19' 9" ") is wrong. Coach P has the correct premise -- an arc of 19' 9" intersecting with lines straight from the end line.

BktBallRef Wed Oct 08, 2008 09:29am

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 541811)
OP is correct, just like are football fields really 110 yards (or 100 for you yankees) long? The 55 yard line (50 for yanks) should be infinitesimally thin, or the middle of the line is what is used.

Ah, "yank" football fields are 120 yards long. :)

SmokeEater Wed Oct 08, 2008 01:50pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 541924)
Ah, "yank" football fields are 120 yards long. :)

This is including End Zones. Exclude them and Juggler is correct.

eyezen Wed Oct 08, 2008 04:43pm

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Originally Posted by SmokeEater (Post 541997)
This is including End Zones. Exclude them and Juggler is correct.

You can't exclude end zones, because then it wouldn't be a football field, it would be just a field with lines and numbers painted on it.

JugglingReferee Wed Oct 08, 2008 05:34pm

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Originally Posted by eyezen (Post 542047)
You can't exclude end zones, because then it wouldn't be a football field, it would be just a field with lines and numbers painted on it.

The quirk I mention exists without the need for endzones.

Back In The Saddle Wed Oct 08, 2008 05:49pm

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 542051)
The quirk I mention exists without the need for endzones.

That quirk would, of course, be Canadian football? :D

Adam Wed Oct 08, 2008 06:47pm

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 542052)
That quirk would, of course, be Canadian football? :D

More likely the XFL.

SmokeEater Thu Oct 09, 2008 07:19am

And since the end zones are different sizes as well, a conversion would be required for that as well.


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