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Sun May 12, 2002, 07:45pm
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A sub cannot commit a personal foul.
A personal foul is a player foul. 
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Mon May 13, 2002, 08:15am
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Yeah, Tony, I know. That's why originally I said that I thought you could only call the T. It would be nice, tho, if we had some wiggle room to give an intentional on this play. If you call an intentional T during a 3-point attempt, can you award 3 shots? In other words, make the penalty for the intentional T the same as for an intentional personal. Just a thought
Chuck
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Mon May 13, 2002, 08:24am
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"If team A is not in the bonus, then you score the basket and give A2 one shot (to complete the "three-point play"). If team A is in the bonus, then you score the basket and give A2 a two-to-make-one opportunity."
Chuck, In this situation, A2 would only get one shot-period. Even if A was in the bonus, there can only be a maximum of three-points scored on this play. Now,If the foul against A2 was a "flagrant," then A2 would get "two to make one."
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Mon May 13, 2002, 08:58am
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Mon May 13, 2002, 09:43am
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But since Team A is in the bonus, then isn't A2 entitled to two shots? Since he's only allowed a maximum of 1 point after the made field goal, he can't make both, but wouldn't you give him the two-to-make-one opportunity? I'm missing something. . .
I guess the way you look at is.... If a loose ball foul is committed by the defense on a successfull free-throw,field goal, A2 is only ENTITLED to one shot, NOT 2. This is because of the maximum of three points on a 2 point play followed by a foul, and 4 if a successful three. I don't know who decided this, but hey, who am I to guestion? Flagrant fouls, elbow fouls carry their own penalty due to their nature, which I guess explains why the 2-to-make-1 applies in thoses cases. Eli, if you're around and can provide more insight, feel free to chip in.
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Mon May 13, 2002, 09:46am
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Ok, so any common (non flagrant, non unsportsmanlike) foul by the defense while the offense is in the act of shooting is a 1-shot foul. That makes a certain amount of sense. File that one away for later. . .
Thanks Drake.
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Tue May 14, 2002, 11:39am
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Chuck you summed it up pretty correctly.
The only ones that would be different than what you described are the elbow foul, punching foul, fighting, and flagrant. They each have their own penalty. Excluding those you would shoot just the one shot and play (treated as if you fouled the shooter but may be another player shooting the ball) the others would be handled differently.
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