Double Dribble our not?

[IREFBB2]

A1 is dribbling the ball and stop his dribble. A1 then losses his balance and places the ball on the floor with both hands on the ball and then returns to a up right position.Violation or not?

[Todd VandenAkker]

As long as the ball doesn't leave his hand as part of another dribble, he is legal. Similarly, if in losing his balance he also fumbles the ball, he can legally pick it up again (but not dribble it).

[PatLynch]

In response to question by irefbb2,
If A1 has used dribble, then falls to the floor and places ball down to stop the fall, has A1 traveled? Can A1 put a hand or knee down and not violate? My books are at home, but I seem to remember that the offensive player could put down another hand or their non-pivot foot without violation, but the ball or knee did in fact cause a violation. Help me with this one, please!

[bob jenkins]

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Originally posted by PatLynch on 02-22-2000 03:08 PM
In response to question by irefbb2,
If A1 has used dribble, then falls to the floor and places ball down to stop the fall, has A1 traveled? Can A1 put a hand or knee down and not violate? My books are at home, but I seem to remember that the offensive player could put down another hand or their non-pivot foot without violation, but the ball or knee did in fact cause a violation. Help me with this one, please!

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2-15 Dribble, Question (2) - Is it a dribble when a player stands still and ... (b) holds the ball and touches it to the floor once or more than once? Answer - ... (b) No.

4-42-5 (last year's number) A player holding the ball ... a. May not touch the floor with a knee or any other part of the body other than hand or foot.

Hope that helps.

[bob jenkins]

Just one more point. If a player has (gains) control of the ball while on the floor, it is a violation to put the ball on the floor, stand up and be the first to touch the ball. Case 4.42.5B.

[Mark Padgett]

quote:

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Originally posted by PatLynch on 02-22-2000 03:08 PM
In response to question by irefbb2, My books are at home, but I seem to remember that the offensive player could put down another hand or their non-pivot foot without violation, but the ball or knee did in fact cause a violation. Help me with this one, please!

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While holding a live ball inbounds, touching the floor with anything other than a hand or foot is a travel violation. Touching the ball to the floor while holding it is not a violation. NF 4-43-5b and 4-15-4 question 2b.

[Bart Tyson]

You can put the ball down as Todd said. But, you can't put the knee down.

[PublicBJ]

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Originally posted by bob jenkins on 02-22-2000 03:22 PM
Just one more point. If a player has (gains) control of the ball while on the floor, it is a violation to put the ball on the floor, stand up and be the first to touch the ball. Case 4.42.5B.

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This was asked a couple days ago. If memory serves, there was an example right on point in the case book, and it was a violation.

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Brian Johnson


[This message has been edited by PublicBJ (edited February 22, 2000).]

[Bart Tyson]

Brian, I think you are looking at 2 different plays. The player is not down on floor and getting up. I think player is standing, then uses the ball to catch his fall, never releasing the ball and never violating the pivot foot.