IHSA Officials

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The reason I do not like this idea as much, is because I would like to be able to ask questions and confirm information vague rules and mechanics that tend to come up. That being said it worked rather well in football. The difference is in football you work with the same group of people on a regular basis. It does not work that way in basketball.

Peace

Rut......

I heard a rumor that advancement testing will be done online also. Have you heard anything? I'm going for C

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Rut......

I heard a rumor that advancement testing will be done online also. Have you heard anything? I'm going for C

You mean the Part 2 Exam? If that is what you are talking about, then that is not a rumor that is a fact.

Peace

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Rut......

I heard a rumor that advancement testing will be done online also. Have you heard anything? I'm going for C

True.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

True.

That's great. Much more convenient and cost effective.

Thanks

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by fullor30

That's great. Much more convenient and cost effective.

Thanks

Do not get so excited. You do not have hours to take the test. Once you start the test you have a 2 hour limit. You can take a break and come back to the test, about 5 days to completely finish the test. Also the questions are scrabbled. Your #1 question might be someone's #53.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Do not get so excited. You do not have hours to take the test. Once you start the test you have a 2 hour limit. You can take a break and come back to the test, about 5 days to completely finish the test. Also the questions are scrabbled. Your #1 question might be someone's #53.

I am excited. Wow, five days to complete? Law boards aren't that lenient. I just appreciate not having to drive somewhere to take it.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by fullor30

I am excited. Wow, five days to complete? Law boards aren't that lenient. I just appreciate not having to drive somewhere to take it.

Change that to 3 days.

You just have to have all your recommendation letters in before November 17. It should be easier for winter sports than it was for the fall sports to accomplish this requirement. At least school is in session.

Peace

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Also the questions are scrabbled.

You mean the test answers are in crossword style? Note: no picture of a Scrabble board.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Also the questions are scrambled. Your #1 question might be someone's #53.

Gasp!

What's that gonna do to the people who come here every year at this time and make their ONE post of the year pleading with somebody...anybody... to supply them with ALL of the answers in numerical order for either the FED Part 1 or 2 exam?

It's just not fair, damnit! After all, they only want the answers for study purposes. They'd never, ever dream of cheating. "Never, ever", I tell ya.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Gasp!

What's that gonna do to the people who come here every year at this time and make their ONE post of the year pleading with somebody...anybody... to supply them with ALL of the answers in numerical order for either the FED Part 1 or 2 exam?

It's just not fair, damnit! After all, they only want the answers for study purposes. They'd never, ever dream of cheating. "Never, ever", I tell ya.

I realize this is going to tick you off, but the NCAA has an online test and it is encouraged to go over the test with other officials. Not only that I have heard Hank Nichols and Dave Yeast (Baseball Coordinator) openly advocate taking the exam with other officials in the room or at the computer. The NCAA has a similar testing process without as many questions and if I remember no time limit.

Actually it is encouraged by the IHSA to get help if needed (especially in football) because a lot of issues in football were crew decisions. This actually makes the test a little easier than previously where you could not get help on the test at all while taking the test (other than open book). To get to the highest level (Certified), you now can take an open book test, where before it was closed. That sounds a little easier than when I was taking the test.

I know you throw out the term "cheating" all the time. It is only cheating when you are violating a specific rule disallowing very specific practices. If you ask me the process is a lot easier than it used to be.

Peace

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I realize this is going to tick you off, but the NCAA has an online test and it is encouraged to go over the test with other officials. Not only that I have heard Hank Nichols and Dave Yeast (Baseball Coordinator) openly advocate taking the exam with other officials in the room or at the computer. The NCAA has a similar testing process without as many questions and if I remember no time limit.

Actually it is encouraged by the IHSA to get help if needed (especially in football) because a lot of issues in football were crew decisions. This actually makes the test a little easier than previously where you could not get help on the test at all while taking the test (other than open book). To get to the highest level (Certified), you now can take an open book test, where before it was closed. That sounds a little easier than when I was taking the test.

I know you throw out the term "cheating" all the time. It is only cheating when you are violating a specific rule disallowing very specific practices. If you ask me the process is a lot easier than it used to be.

Peace

The goal obviously is have officials learn. It certainly is easier to have an open book on a C test. Our association as do many others, go over part one as a group and review answers. Like anything else, you get out of it what you put in.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I know you throw out the term "cheating" all the time.

Yup, and I'll continue to do so for every single unprincipled ethics-lacking clown that comes here just wanting the bulk exam answers instead of wanting to discuss individual questions, situations, etc. There is one helluva big difference between discussing the exam questions and just regurgitating a list of supplied answers. The difference is that you might actually learn something using the one method; you don't learn diddly-squat memorizing provided answers.

Being able to attain a higher certification level without having to learn the appropriate rules is just wrong imo. They're just cheating themselves, but they don't think of that.

It is kind of a pet peeve with me...along with midgets, BoSox fans and anything to do with Notre Dame football.

[Bearfanmike20]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I realize this is going to tick you off, but the NCAA has an online test and it is encouraged to go over the test with other officials. Not only that I have heard Hank Nichols and Dave Yeast (Baseball Coordinator) openly advocate taking the exam with other officials in the room or at the computer. The NCAA has a similar testing process without as many questions and if I remember no time limit.

Actually it is encouraged by the IHSA to get help if needed (especially in football) because a lot of issues in football were crew decisions. This actually makes the test a little easier than previously where you could not get help on the test at all while taking the test (other than open book). To get to the highest level (Certified), you now can take an open book test, where before it was closed. That sounds a little easier than when I was taking the test.

I know you throw out the term "cheating" all the time. It is only cheating when you are violating a specific rule disallowing very specific practices. If you ask me the process is a lot easier than it used to be.

Peace

I sit down with a senior official and go over it. It helps me understand. He gives examples.. its great. I feel more prepared too IMO.