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mick Wed Apr 24, 2002 06:49pm

What is the advantage, or purpose, of wearing the looped lanyards, tight to the throat with the V-neck shirts?
I see it a lot at the college level, and I am thinking it is a fashion statement that looks odd.
I see it as a potential threat to safety.
I am hoping there is a purpose, or a requirement.
Thanks.
mick


iref21 Wed Apr 24, 2002 06:51pm

I think that these are very comfortable and the lanyard is longer so it allows for more movement. Common on Mick, refs creating a fashion statement, what.

Brian Watson Wed Apr 24, 2002 07:10pm

If you do not wear it tight to your throat the silly thing flops all over the place when you run, I about put my eye out after a half when I didn't slide my bead up.

Since there is no collar to keep it under control and the elastic loops (presumably for a smitty) there are worthless, it is just the way it is...for now.

Mark Dexter Wed Apr 24, 2002 09:00pm

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm weary to wear something that is called a noose.

Just brings up too many bad thoughts . . .

ChuckElias Wed Apr 24, 2002 09:11pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Brian Watson
the elastic loops (presumably for a smitty) there are worthless, it is just the way it is...for now.
I use the Smitty all the time, and have not yet had a shirt loop break on me. I've never had a problem with the loop. Just my experience.

Chuck

BktBallRef Wed Apr 24, 2002 09:38pm

NCHSAA requires us to wear the smitty. Lanyards are illegal.

Dan_ref Wed Apr 24, 2002 10:16pm

Quote:

Originally posted by BktBallRef
NCHSAA requires us to wear the smitty. Lanyards are illegal.
Wow. NY requires us to wear a lanyard, apparently some kid
slipped on a whistle that fell to the floor due to a bad
Smitty loop. I wore a Smitty for a while myself but I
haven't since a loop broke on me, maybe 5 yrs ago.
I wear the lanyard "tight" to keep it from flopping
around, like Brian. (I don't mean Brian flops around, I
mean he wears his tight to prevent this like I do.)

JWalker Thu Apr 25, 2002 12:04am

I wear mine real close to the neck. I put the whole lanyard around my neck and fasten it where the clip is. That way, I can see when I run down the court.

dblref Thu Apr 25, 2002 05:38am

Quote:

Originally posted by JWalker
I wear mine real close to the neck. I put the whole lanyard around my neck and fasten it where the clip is. That way, I can see when I run down the court.
My association requires us to wear either the lanyard or the smitty. I personally prefer the smitty and I have never had one to break. Some of our officials don't use either during rec games, but I can't do this. I tried a couple of times but I spent most of my time trying to retreive my whistle after I spit it out. :(

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Thu Apr 25, 2002 08:30am

Quote:

Originally posted by BktBallRef
NCHSAA requires us to wear the smitty. Lanyards are illegal.

I prefer the Smitty myself, but surely you jest when you say that the North CarolinaHSAA requires the Smitty and only the Smitty to be worn. It seems to me that the NCHSAA is trying to micromanage everything. Do they mandate that all officials must wear the V-neck even though the NFHS still allows the Byron collar shirt to be worn?

iref21 Thu Apr 25, 2002 08:46am

Do they mandate the underwear you have to wear too?

ChuckElias Thu Apr 25, 2002 09:25am

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Quote:

surely you jest when you say that the North CarolinaHSAA requires the Smitty and only the Smitty to be worn. . . Do they mandate that all officials must wear the V-neck even though the NFHS still allows the Byron collar shirt to be worn?
Just to chime in, Mark, Massachusetts also requires us to use the Smitty and to wear V-neck shirts. NO collars, NO lanyards. Period.

Chuck

BktBallRef Thu Apr 25, 2002 09:52am

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Quote:

surely you jest when you say that the North CarolinaHSAA requires the Smitty and only the Smitty to be worn. . . Do they mandate that all officials must wear the V-neck even though the NFHS still allows the Byron collar shirt to be worn?
Just to chime in, Mark, Massachusetts also requires us to use the Smitty and to wear V-neck shirts. NO collars, NO lanyards. Period.

Chuck
Thank you, Chuck. NC is the same. V-neck shirt, and a smitty. No collars, no lanyards. Pleated or regular black slacks may be worn. No white on the shoes.

iref21, you're "firetrucking" hilarious.


rockyroad Thu Apr 25, 2002 09:52am

It's a comfort issue - much like those Fox 40 CMG whistles...I tried the lanyard and the CMG last summer, liked them both, and haven't gone back...

ReadyToRef Thu Apr 25, 2002 09:58am

Do they mandate the underwear you have to wear too?

Black, just in case your pants split. :p

johnSandlin Thu Apr 25, 2002 10:03am

Michigan does not have a specific lanyard guideline that we have to follow. Some use the smitty's and others use the neck lanyards. However, all of my college assignors require us to use the neck lanyards.

Barry C. Morris Thu Apr 25, 2002 10:47am

I started wearing the lanyard after I had the Smitty loop come out of my shirt as I reached for my whistle to signal I was about to toss. It was a shirt I had just taken out of the bag.

Occasionally, I wear a smitty, but I always have the lanyard in my pocket.

rainmaker Thu Apr 25, 2002 06:24pm

Quote:

Originally posted by dblref
Some of our officials don't use either during rec games, but I can't do this. I tried a couple of times but I spent most of my time trying to retreive my whistle after I spit it out. :(

I did a game this winter with a guy who was trying to get used to not using a lanyard or a Smitty. It was sort of funny at first, but it got real old, real fast...

dblref Fri Apr 26, 2002 06:09am

BBRef:

Interesting point about no white on the shoes. I am pretty sure that the officials manual states something to the effect that we should wear all black shoes. My association allows black or white (I have both), but all members of the crew have to wear the same thing. I don't recall the state level saying anything about this. I usually don't see white on the shoes except at the varsity level -- not sure why.

JWalker Fri Apr 26, 2002 10:53am

I'm sorry, but white shoes and black pants together is tacky. Your shoes should never be lighter than your outfit. That is the only rule of fashion that I know.

mick Fri Apr 26, 2002 11:16am

Quote:

Originally posted by JWalker
I'm sorry, but white shoes and black pants together is tacky. Your shoes should never be lighter than your outfit. That is the only rule of fashion that I know.
Oh, my!
I have always found it quite appropriate for white pumps with taupe.
That doesn't work? :cool:
mick

rainmaker Fri Apr 26, 2002 11:23am

Quote:

Originally posted by JWalker
I'm sorry, but white shoes and black pants together is tacky. Your shoes should never be lighter than your outfit. That is the only rule of fashion that I know.
My skin is white enough that if I'm wearing black shorts, I vastly prefer white socks and shoes. Otherwise, I really look strange (as do all the other white guys and gals, but I don't feel like insulting anyone today) Just one more reason to envy dark-skinned people. But with long black pants, I agree with you.

Dan_ref Fri Apr 26, 2002 11:55am

Quote:

Originally posted by mick
Quote:

Originally posted by JWalker
I'm sorry, but white shoes and black pants together is tacky. Your shoes should never be lighter than your outfit. That is the only rule of fashion that I know.
Oh, my!
I have always found it quite appropriate for white pumps with taupe.
That doesn't work? :cool:
mick


I'm actively looking the other way right now...say, how
did the Yankees do yesterday...think I'll change my oil
this weekend...yep, sure is funny weather we're gettin'...
cough cough...

JRutledge Fri Apr 26, 2002 12:46pm

Not there anymore.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Quote:

Originally posted by BktBallRef
NCHSAA requires us to wear the smitty. Lanyards are illegal.

I prefer the Smitty myself, but surely you jest when you say that the North CarolinaHSAA requires the Smitty and only the Smitty to be worn. It seems to me that the NCHSAA is trying to micromanage everything. Do they mandate that all officials must wear the V-neck even though the NFHS still allows the Byron collar shirt to be worn?

Mark, the NF got rid of the Byron collar definition in 2001-2002 Rulebook. ;)

Peace

JRutledge Fri Apr 26, 2002 12:53pm

I have used both.
 
I have used both and have had problems with "smitty" lanyard. I do like using the Smitty Lanyard, but I have had them fall off in the middle of games. Then it gets really hard to use when you spit out the whistle every time you make a call.

Now I carry both with me on the floor. So if one does not work I can use the other. And I also have an extra whistle or whistles with that.

It just comes down to personal preference.

Peace

Mike Burns Fri Apr 26, 2002 03:03pm

In central Florida we are required to wear the v-neck.

We have the option of using the Smitty or the lanyard and I prefer the lanyard because it is longer and feels more comfortable. I have had a loop almost break while using a smitty. I use the loop with the lanyard so that it doesn't flop around. Then fasten the bead up about 1/2 inch from the neck.

Works for me. Mike

BktBallRef Fri Apr 26, 2002 10:50pm

Quote:

Originally posted by JWalker
I'm sorry, but white shoes and black pants together is tacky. Your shoes should never be lighter than your outfit. That is the only rule of fashion that I know.
Good point, Jennifer! My wife sasy you shouldn't wear white shoes or slacks after Labor Day! :D


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