Wrong team inbounding

[ReadyToRef]

Team A scores and a Team A member goes out of bounds and throws the ball in. My partner at trail doesn't catch this immediately. I know that this is covered in the rule book but I can't remember where. What should the call be and what rule number covers this? Thanks for your help.

[Bart Tyson]

do over. You can correct this.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally posted by Bart Tyson
do over. You can correct this.

Unless Team A did this intentionally to delay the game.

[Bart Tyson]

I have never seen player do this intentionally. However, Mark is correct.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Unless Team A did this intentionally to delay the game.

Even if A did this intentionally, you have a do-over.

If team A scores then inbounds, you do the following (after blowing the whistle, obviously):
(1) Reset time on the clock from when A inbounded.
(2) Cancel the basket scored by A, if any (the one after their illegal inbounds).
(3) Cancel all fouls, other than technical, intentional, or flagrant.
(4) Charge team A with a technical foul, unless it was done out of confusion.

[Stan]

I was told earlier that this is not a correctable error but an error that can be corrected. I agree but at what point does it become unfixable. IE: Team A inbounds (incorrectly) to A1, A1 passes to A2, B1 fouls A2, A2 (in bonus) makes both free throws, B coach figures out that inbounds was incorrect and asks for the error to be corrected.

[Bart Tyson]

As Mark stated above, Do over. cancel everything. Obviously there is a point where you cannot "remember" for certain if the wrong team did this or you cannot remember all that took place since error was made. Sorry coach, I'll make sure it won't happen again.

[ReadyToRef]

Most of what everyone is saying, I rememebred but I can't seem to locate it in the rule book. Does anyone remember what rule covers this?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally posted by Mark Dexter

Even if A did this intentionally, you have a do-over.

If team A scores then inbounds, you do the following (after blowing the whistle, obviously):
(1) Reset time on the clock from when A inbounded.
(2) Cancel the basket scored by A, if any (the one after their illegal inbounds).
(3) Cancel all fouls, other than technical, intentional, or flagrant.
(4) Charge team A with a technical foul, unless it was done out of confusion.

I cannot find a casebook play regarding this play, but I am sure that there is probably one out there somewhere. But, this is not a correctable error. The correctable error definition does NOT and canNOT be applied to this play.

The closest play that I can find to this play is NFHS Casebook Play 7.5.2B: Team A is awarded a throw-in near the difision line. The administering official by mistake,putsthe ball at B1's disposal. B1 completes the throw-in and Team B subsequently scores a goal. RULING: No correction can be made for the mistake by the official.

This RULING would apply to NCAA rules also.

I believe that Play 7.5.2B is pretty darn close to the posted play.: The T did not realize that the wrong team had made the throw-in until after the wrong team had scored. If the administering official in the posted play catches the mistake as soon as throw-in occurs, i.e., catching the mistake at anytime before the throw-in ends, then you do have a "do over." If the administering official catches the mistake before the throw-in ends, then I would ignore any common fouls but not intentional, flagrant, and technical fouls. I would not reset the game clock.

It has been my expiernce that this type of play (the posted play, i.e., Team A scores and Team A mistakenly grabs the ball for a throw-in) occurs most often during games in the jr. H.S. age group and below.

But if in the administering official's judgement, Team A's actions were not a mistake but a deliberate act, then a delay a game technical foul should be charged against the Team A player who took possesion of the ball and took it out of bound for the attempted throw-in [NFHS R10-S3-A7a; NCAA R10-S3-A20 (indirect technical foul)], and if the game is being played under NFHS rules a warning per R4-S46-A3 would be issued to Team A if it had not already recieved a warning per R4-S46-A3.

[Bart Tyson]

OK, it took me for ever to find it. I knew it was there. Check Rule 10-1-8.

[Mark Dexter]

I go by case 10.1.8 - "A Specific Unsporting Act."

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Bart and Mark D., do not use NFHS R10-S1-A8 because it is to be used for technical fouls charged to a team. The correct rule reference is the one in my last post: NFHS R10-S3-A7a and NCAA R10-S3-A20, which are technical fouls by a player. If the official judges this to be a deliberate act of delay of game, the act has to be committed by a player and charged to the player that commits it.

[Bart Tyson]

Mark, if you read on in the rule it talks about this being a mistake. I seems to me this would apply. My book is at work so i can't reread it but i sure thought i read about this situation.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally posted by Bart Tyson
Mark, if you read on in the rule it talks about this being a mistake. I seems to me this would apply. My book is at work so i can't reread it but i sure thought i read about this situation.

Dang it, you found the Casebook Play that I could not find. My previous (the long one) posting is null and void.

[Bart Tyson]

Thats funny Mark