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Chuck,
check your e-mail.

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Originally posted by Mark Dexter
(2) For GT, you need all of the following qualifications:
a. TRY for goal
b. Ball in DOWNWARD flight
c. Ball entirely above rim
d. Possibility to go in

And, ball must be outside the cylinder. :-)

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Originally posted by crew
though by rule it is not goaltending or BI but is a good rule of thumb to score this basket. the percentages are in your favor if you call this.

Didn't we just go through all this with BI for slapping the backboard? :rolleyes:

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Originally posted by dblref

I assume you are talking Hoyas here? I knew you attended college in the DC are, just didn't know which fine institution.

I don't go there - just worked through them for the NCAA tournament!

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Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

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Originally posted by crew
though by rule it is not goaltending or BI but is a good rule of thumb to score this basket. the percentages are in your favor if you call this.

WHOOOOAAAAA NELLLLLLIEEEEE!!!

How can you can call a violation on B1 when no violation has occured? I do not want to hear about "rule of thumb." I want a logical (rules and casebook references) defense of why an official would, could, and should call a violation on a player when no violation (or foul) had occurred.

The sad part,Mark,is that the percentages ARE in your favor of not getting any flak if you call GT in this case.Coaches,players,fans--they don't understand the nuances of the GT and BI rules.Call it GT and nobody is really going to moan about it.Once they see the ball hit the board and then somebody touches it,they want 2 awarded,no matter what.If you correctly don't call it,the roof IS going to come down on your head.That said,I certainly agree with you that a good official should make the proper call in this case,no matter what the consequences.If he/she doesn't,then they've put themselves into the position where they could have possibly unfairly affected the outcome of the game.
Crew,the right call and the popular call are two completely different animals.

"NBA RULES, It is NEVER allowed to hit the ball once it has hit the
backboard."

Ok. I have to eat my own words. Never say never.
If the ball does NOT have a chance to score and then gets hit off the board, it's legal.

crew's advice amounts to, "If you're not sure, guess; b/c maybe you'll be right and nobody will argue anyway"; whereas I think most of us try to officiate by "If you're not sure, don't guess."

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Here's my two cents... 'if you don't know, don't blow!' Better to explain why you didn't call, than to explain why you guessed!