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mick Tue Mar 26, 2002 06:24pm

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Originally posted by jbduke

Not even double knots work that well for me.

jb

jb,
Square bows are the answer... sorta like a square knot. ;)
mick

Bart Tyson Tue Mar 26, 2002 06:29pm

Mark, are you using slippers?

bigwhistle Tue Mar 26, 2002 07:18pm

Mark uses those velcro shoes. :D

rainmaker Tue Mar 26, 2002 07:30pm

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Originally posted by mick
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Originally posted by rainmaker

Howard (who is my PBOA assignor) -- Please don't give me Bart as a partner. I don't want to be held liable for the injuries resulting from above!


From what I've read over the years, even though I would stop play with glasses on the floor, I would work with Bart in a blink!
mick


Okay, okay, maybe I over-reacted a little. But, I can't imagine NOT stopping the play with a pair of glasses or a hearing-aid loose in the middle of things. If it's out at half-court, and the kid is trying to find it, and there are no other players around, I'd keep an eye on it. But in the key, stop the play!! Glasses and hearing aids are EXPENSIVE, and slippery and breakable with lots of little parts and shards of glass everywhere -- not my idea of a good time. I think I would try to hold off a second if a shot is imminent, but I don't see why going to the arrow for possession would be a huge problem. That seems a lot less messy than cleaning up a broken whatever, or rescuing a player with a turned ankle or bruised tailbone.

mick Tue Mar 26, 2002 08:40pm

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Originally posted by rainmaker


Okay, okay, maybe I over-reacted a little. But, I can't imagine NOT stopping the play with a pair of glasses or a hearing-aid loose in the middle of things. If it's out at half-court, and the kid is trying to find it, and there are no other players around, I'd keep an eye on it. But in the key, stop the play!! Glasses and hearing aids are EXPENSIVE, and slippery and breakable with lots of little parts and shards of glass everywhere -- not my idea of a good time. I think I would try to hold off a second if a shot is imminent, but I don't see why going to the arrow for possession would be a huge problem. That seems a lot less messy than cleaning up a broken whatever, or rescuing a player with a turned ankle or bruised tailbone. [/B][/QUOTE]

Jewel,
Yikes, with all that potential, there is a lot more stress in this game than I think I can handle!

I'll tell ya one thing about glasses, though. When a kid loses them and he is not wearing a band to hold 'em on, I really am aggravated.
mick

Bart Tyson Tue Mar 26, 2002 08:45pm

Maybe, it depends on the level of ball. I don't recall working games with players wearing glasses or hearing aids, at least not in the last 7-12yrs. Maybe in younger age ball, you could get away with stopping the game. I do believe in the games i work the coach would blow a gasket if i wipe a made basket and then give the ball to the other team with 10seconds left in the game and being down by 2 points. So, I guess i can understand in games of HSJV and lower b/c the games are not as important. And please don't misunderstand me by saying "not as important", i think you know what i mean.

mick Tue Mar 26, 2002 09:04pm

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Originally posted by Bart Tyson
Maybe, it depends on the level of ball. I don't recall working games with players wearing glasses or hearing aids, at least not in the last 7-12yrs. Maybe in younger age ball, you could get away with stopping the game. I do believe in the games i work the coach would blow a gasket if i wipe a made basket and then give the ball to the other team with 10seconds left in the game and being down by 2 points. So, I guess i can understand in games of HSJV and lower b/c the games are not as important. And please don't misunderstand me by saying "not as important", i think you know what i mean.
Bart,
This Year, I only had one occurrence of glasses on the floor. It was a varsity game, the other team scored and we held up play for the player to put 'em back on. He left the floor to straighten the frames. ...No safety band.
It was an easy fix.
mick

Bart Tyson Wed Mar 27, 2002 09:53am

It must be all the Carrots we eat in Kansas, Missouri, Iowa, and Texas.

rainmaker Wed Mar 27, 2002 11:58am

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Originally posted by Bart Tyson
... the coach would blow a gasket if i wipe a made basket and then give the ball to the other team with 10seconds left in the game and being down by 2 points.
I didn't say I would wipe a made basket! What I said was, I would wait, if at all possible, to see if I could let a shot go. It makes no sense at all to blow just as the shot goes up, since with a made basket, possession is predetermined.


I would only blow on the rebound if it was absolutely necessary, ie, glasses on the floor in the paint, and 8 players jumping up and down (one other player is blind and trying to avoid a collision, the last player is confused about whether the play stopped when the glasses flew off, and is looking at the coach to see what to do). In facct, what I would do is just what I said I would do -- treat it just like an injured player!

Bart Tyson Wed Mar 27, 2002 12:34pm

I don't think we are that far apart. first of all i believe if a player lost his glasses; 1) i don't think they would be sooo blind that they would not be able to reach down to find them; 2) i think the action would end within seconds anyway and player would be able to pickup his glasses; 3) if HIS team got the rebound and held play so he could put on his glasses then there is no need to blow the whistle; 4) if HIS team got the rebound and held play and he was still having problems then YES i would stop play; 5) if the other team got the rebound and headed the other end of the court then again no need to stop play as in your own words treat like an injured player; 6) if the other team got the rebound and imediately put back up then tuff break; 7) if the other team got the rebound and pulled out and the player was having trouble with the glasses then YES i will stop play.
So, what do you think? Is this OK? :)


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