Final Four Officials - Page 2

BktBallRef · #16 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 26, 2002, 11:12pm

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Originally posted by Tim Roden
I know David and you probably know him too since you are also from Colorado. I think he will get one of the semi games that does not include a Big XII school.

Tim, isn't their a Big XII team in each of the semis?

Why do you think the Duke game could impact his selection?

johnSandlin · #17 (**permalink**) Wed Mar 27, 2002, 09:20am

Thought I would let everyone know that based NCAA action in the past, Larry Rose who I put down to be one of the officials in Final Four will probably not be there because he worked one of the NIT semis last night. My guess now would be David Hall will get the nod to be at the Final Four.

dsavolt · #18 (**permalink**) Wed Mar 27, 2002, 10:45am

I don't believe conferences will come into the decision of who will officiate the final four. Jim Burr works in about every conference possible, but that doesn't stop him in being in the final four's.

Mark Dexter · #19 (**permalink**) Wed Mar 27, 2002, 03:35pm

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Originally posted by johnSandlin
Thought I would let everyone know that based NCAA action in the past, Larry Rose who I put down to be one of the officials in Final Four will probably not be there because he worked one of the NIT semis last night. My guess now would be David Hall will get the nod to be at the Final Four.

The rule is that you can't accept any officiating assignments for five days prior to the game - to prevent injury, etc.

Mark Dexter · #20 (**permalink**) Wed Mar 27, 2002, 03:36pm

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Originally posted by dsavolt
I don't believe conferences will come into the decision of who will officiate the final four. Jim Burr works in about every conference possible, but that doesn't stop him in being in the final four's.

That's probably because he works every conference.

However, if you work only the Medium 29, you might feel (subconsciously, probably) pressure to have the Medium 29 team win so that you get better assignments next year.

rainmaker · #21 (**permalink**) Wed Mar 27, 2002, 06:43pm

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Originally posted by jbduke
What happened to Gerald Boudreaux? He's worked something like three out of the last four championship games, and this year he didn't even make it to the third round. I was surprised and disappointed, as I think he's the best in the game. Did he have something go badly wrong in one of his first two games?

Just curious,
jb

And totally changing the subject, where is Bill Walton this year, too? I kind of miss that cozy, superior feeling I enjoyed listening to him last year.

Tim Roden · #22 (**permalink**) Wed Mar 27, 2002, 10:48pm

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Originally posted by BktBallRef

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Originally posted by Tim Roden
I know David and you probably know him too since you are also from Colorado. I think he will get one of the semi games that does not include a Big XII school.

Tim, isn't their a Big XII team in each of the semis?

Why do you think the Duke game could impact his selection?

When I was at Dave Hall's camp. He mentioned that your first NCAA game would be between a 1 and a 16 seed. If the 16 seed wins, then you probably won't get another game for a couple years. A #1 seed losing to a #5 seed in the 3rd round. Sounds suspicious to me. I hope he does get a game. At the camp, I had the 1 vs 8 game in the first round. I saw him after the game and mentioned that the 1 seed won so I guess, I can stick around and call the next game you have scheduled for me.:-). He like that one. As I mentioned in my article that I wrote, I did get a championship game. But that was another bracket.

Maybe I was wrong but I thought that there was one game without. Shows you how much I have been paying attention.

mightyvol · #23 (**permalink**) Wed Mar 27, 2002, 11:20pm

fellow forum members:

just thought that i would throw a little praise for paul jannsen. he is one of the nicest guys that i have had the oppourtunity to work with. went to a couple of clinics the last year. one was in sioux falls sd.,and the other was in sioux city ia. i really respect him tremendously. paul is the type of guy that we want on the floor. great personality to go along with his size. i will say that he is one of the up and coming refs in the bussiness. i think he deserves to work his first final four. just wanted to praise him a little bit. i definitly dont think scott thornley deserves it. just must thoughts. we will find out soon enough.

mightyvol

Redneck Ref · #24 (**permalink**) Fri Mar 29, 2002, 09:17pm

Found out from a good source that Richard Cartmell has been selected to do the final four. He has already flown to Atlanta.

Mark Padgett · #25 (**permalink**) Fri Mar 29, 2002, 10:30pm

Man - is my face red (actually, green on the smilie). I was just watching the NCAA womens semi between UConn and Tennessee and I was sure I knew one of the refs. Since he works college, I wasn't surprised and I was looking forward to speaking to him about his experience.

Then, about 3 minutes into the game, they had a close-up. It wasn't the guy. In fact, it was a woman.

I don't know what that means. Choose one from the following list:

1) the guy I know looks like a woman
2) the woman ref in the game looks like a guy
3) I need new glasses
4) all of the above

Juulie - email me and I'll tell you who I thought it was. You know him, too.

topref · #26 (**permalink**) Sat Mar 30, 2002, 06:45pm

I believe Dave Hall will pop up on your crystal ball somewhere.

chayce · #27 (**permalink**) Sat Mar 30, 2002, 09:03pm

Gerald B...the best in the game?

JRutledge · #28 (**permalink**) Sat Mar 30, 2002, 09:16pm

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Originally posted by johnSandlin
Here is the list of officials the NCAA will choose from to work the Final Four? With these names, any guesses on crew assignments?
Jim Burr, Scott Thornley, Tom Rucker, Steve Welmer, Ed Hightower, Zelton Steed, David Hall, Leslie Jones, Paul Jannsen, Tony Greene, Bruce Benedict, Tim Higgins, Larry Rose, Pat Driscoll, Mike Kitts, Eddie Corbett, Mike Wood, John Cahill, Terry Moore, John Hughes, Mark Whitehead, Tommy Nunez, Tom Lopes, Richard Cartmell.
Here are my guesses:
Semi-Final #1, or #2
Jim Burr(R)
Steve Welmer(U-1)
Larry Rose(U-2)

Semi-Final #2, or #1
Ed Hightower(R)
Zelton Steed(U-1)
Eddie Corbett(U-2)

NCAA Final:
Tom Rucker(R)
Scott Thornley(U-1)
Tim Higgins(U-2)

John,

How are accurate was your guesses?

I did not see for sure about the first game, but Hightower is working the #2 Semi-Final.

Peace

johnSandlin · #29 (**permalink**) Sat Mar 30, 2002, 10:45pm

JRutledge,

I did not well at all for the officiating cre for the first game. The first crew was: (R) Mike Kitts, (U1) David Libbey, & (U2) Duke Edsall. However, I did make a good come back for the second game. Two out of three guesses are working. The second crew was (R) Tim Higgins, (U1) Ed Hightower, (U2) Ed Corbett. As for Monday, I am replacing Higgins for Rucker. My guess for Monday night is: (R) Tom Rucker, (U1) Jim Burr, (U2) Scott Thornley, (Alternate) Richard Cartmell.

BktBallRef · #30 (**permalink**) Sat Mar 30, 2002, 11:08pm

I'm gald to see Duke Edsall got a Final Four game. I'm pretty sure it's his first. He's been around a few years now and has endured some personal hardship as well.

Good job, Duke!

Darn! Did I say that?

Did anyone see Hightower, while at lead, standing on the court, behind the player on the lower block during a Kansas FT. What was he doing?