Double Dribble

[BigJoe]

Was at the semi-finals of the Minnesota State High School 4A game yesterday afternoon. I saw a call in that game that I see over and over at games. Player A1 dribbles and picks up dribble. Immediately upon picking up his dribble he fumbles the ball. He retreives the ball after one bounce and fires off a pass to A2. Just as I expected there was an immediate whistle for a double dribble. In my mind this is a fumble which is allowed under the rules. He may retrieve the ball but not start another dribble. The rule reference is NFHS 4-15-4 note 2. Have any of you witnessed this lately? The coaches and players must be used to having this called all the time as no one complained. I think as a coach you should have been all over the official for this call. I don't think the official could have possibly have interpreted this as anything other than a fumble.

[bob jenkins]

Can't address the MN situation, but you are right that:

1) It's not a DD
2) It often is called that way.

I did see it happen in an NCAA game and the official shook his head "no" and gave the "Fumble" mechanic (think football -- juggling the ball while going out of bounds on a near-catch).

The crowd yelled, the coach came up, the ref signalled, the coach sat down, the fans still yelled.

I"ll try to add this to my mechanics list.

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by bob jenkins
... and the official shook his head "no" and gave the "Fumble" mechanic (think football -- juggling the ball while going out of bounds on a near-catch).
.......
I"ll try to add this to my mechanics list.

I'm not a big football fan. What does this mechanic look like?

[JWC]

I had this one last week hope I got it correct.
Player A1 dribbling picks up his dribble. Attempts to
pass to A2 but tries to pull back pass when A2 is cut off.
A1 fumbles the ball and picks it up. I call double dribble.

JWC

[ChuckElias]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by rainmaker

I'm not a big football fan. What does this mechanic look like?

It's the double dribble signal, only with the palms up. It's supposed to convey "He was juggling it".

Chuck

[Mark Padgett]

Originally posted by JWC
I had this one last week hope I got it correct.
Player A1 dribbling picks up his dribble. Attempts to
pass to A2 but tries to pull back pass when A2 is cut off.
A1 fumbles the ball and picks it up. I call double dribble.

JWC

If you felt it truly was a "fumble", you blew it.

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by JWC
I had this one last week hope I got it correct.
Player A1 dribbling picks up his dribble. Attempts to
pass to A2 but tries to pull back pass when A2 is cut off.
A1 fumbles the ball and picks it up. I call double dribble.

JWC

Nope, you got it wrong. It's no different than the play being discussed. He didn't dribble, he fumbled.

rainmaker, do you have a slinky?

[mick]

Originally posted by bob jenkins
-- juggling the ball while going out of bounds on a near-catch).

bob,
I use the "no control/ fumble" thingy, too.
But, the ignits are slow to catch on.
mick