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atoms Thu May 01, 2008 02:33pm

Who finishes top of the league???
 
Hi,

Can anyone tell me what the rules are for determining who finishes first when two teams tie on points?

Is it then based on percentage/goal difference or does it come down to results between the tied teams?

I am VERY anxious :confused: to know the answer because my sons team may get duped out of 1st place and result in them playing the wrong team in the semi final tomorrow.

PLEASE help if you can:) :) :)

Bad Zebra Thu May 01, 2008 02:43pm

Most of the time, it will be decided by an arm wrestling contest between the two head coaches (best two out of three). If those result in a draw, then the players with the highest scoring average for each team will compete a best of three series of scissors-paper-rock.

atoms Thu May 01, 2008 02:50pm

that is so funny ...
 
thanks for wasting your time and mine

Dan_ref Thu May 01, 2008 02:52pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by atoms
Hi,

Can anyone tell me what the rules are for determining who finishes first when two teams tie on points?

Is it then based on percentage/goal difference or does it come down to results between the tied teams?

I am VERY anxious :confused: to know the answer because my sons team may get duped out of 1st place and result in them playing the wrong team in the semi final tomorrow.

PLEASE help if you can:) :) :)

This is easy. Obviously your son's team is the better one and should get first seed.

Scrapper1 Thu May 01, 2008 02:53pm

atoms, this is a refereeing website. We have no idea what your league's rules are for breaking ties in the standings. You need to contact your league's organizing body.

That's why you got the "funny" answer. Nobody here can help you. Sorry.

Bad Zebra Thu May 01, 2008 02:54pm

No thanks necessary.

It's really no waste of time considering this is a basketball officials web site and no one here could possibly answer your question because we have no idea which rule set you use, where you are located, the by-laws of your son's league, or how old he is.

Dan_ref Thu May 01, 2008 02:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrapper1
atoms, this is a refereeing website. We have no idea what your league's rules are for breaking ties in the standings. You need to contact your league's organizing body.

That's why you got the "funny" answer. Nobody here can help you. Sorry.

I was serious.

Please, we're trying to eliminate the mean-spirited and dismissive tone to newbies around here. You are not helping! :mad:

Bad Zebra Thu May 01, 2008 02:58pm

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
I was serious.

Please, we're trying to eliminate the mean-spirited and dismissive tone to newbies around here. You are not helping! :mad:

But your response is not considering the fragile self-image of the other team's players. That might be construed as mean-spirited as well.

JRutledge Thu May 01, 2008 02:59pm

Atoms, I am very serious.
 
Honestly, who cares.

Peace

atoms Thu May 01, 2008 03:03pm

I was hoping there were clear rules
 
Well he is U14 and plays in England, I assumed obviously incorrectly that there were universal rules around deciding ladder positions.

When I played it was points first then percentage and in the unlikely event that this was also tied then it came down to results between the two teams.

Dan_ref Thu May 01, 2008 03:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra
But your response is not considering the fragile self-image of the other team's players. That might be construed as mean-spirited as well.

**** them.

Bad Zebra Thu May 01, 2008 03:27pm

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
**** them.

Yeah...this thread should disappear in a few minutes. Spiraling downward quickly.

Raymond Thu May 01, 2008 03:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by atoms
Well he is U14 and plays in England, I assumed obviously incorrectly that there were universal rules around deciding ladder positions.

When I played it was points first then percentage and in the unlikely event that this was also tied then it came down to results between the two teams.

Based on this post alone you are obviously not talking about basketball.

This site was the best source your "googling' efforts could come up with?

atoms Thu May 01, 2008 03:33pm

F%$ off then .... I won't be back
 
This forum is just a waste of space, BadNewRef you are just a wanker ... of course I was talking about basketball.

If you are only a ref then you never actually played the game or if you did you probably weren't good enough to cut it and gave up to make a "man" out of yourself.

I've found what I was looking for, just a shame that no-one here actually knows the rules.

lukealex Thu May 01, 2008 03:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by atoms
This forum is just a waste of space, BadNewRef you are just a wanker ... of course I was talking about basketball.

If you are only a ref then you never actually played the game or if you did you probably weren't good enough to cut it and gave up to make a "man" out of yourself.

I've found what I was looking for, just a shame that no-one here actually knows the rules.

We've given you your answer, you have to talk to who runs the league. We also don't deal in FEEBLE rules hardly at all here. If your league uses points scored and field goal percentages before head to head record, that is your first problem.

If you actually knew the rules of basketball, you would find this forum useful. Since you didn't find your answer of how your son will be the best basketball player ever, too bad, go somewhere else, we don't care.

And whats a wanker? :confused::D

Welpe Thu May 01, 2008 03:51pm

Only a ref? Puzzling.... :confused:

Dan_ref Thu May 01, 2008 04:03pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by atoms
This forum is just a waste of space, BadNewRef you are just a wanker ... of course I was talking about basketball.

If you are only a ref then you never actually played the game or if you did you probably weren't good enough to cut it and gave up to make a "man" out of yourself.

I've found what I was looking for, just a shame that no-one here actually knows the rules.

How repulsive.

Bad Zebra Thu May 01, 2008 04:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by atoms
I've found what I was looking for, just a shame that no-one here actually knows the rules.

Well then, nice of him to stop by then, wasn't it?

We now switch you back to our regularly scheduled postings.

Jurassic Referee Thu May 01, 2008 04:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by lukealex

And whats a wanker? :confused::D

BadNewsRef.

<o>I'm a wanker
You're a wanker
Wouldn't you like to be a wanker too?</i>

Dan_ref Thu May 01, 2008 04:17pm

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Originally Posted by Bad Zebra
Well then, nice of him to stop by then, wasn't it?

We now switch you back to our regularly scheduled postings.

Good. I'll spread the garbage back on the couch & dining room table, you can clog up the toilets.

Bad Zebra Thu May 01, 2008 04:23pm

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
Good. I'll spread the garbage back on the couch & dining room table, you can clog up the toilets.

Gladly..oh, and don't forget to switch on SportsCenter...it helps me type faster.

Adam Thu May 01, 2008 04:25pm

Hey, I see they've written a book about Jurassic.
http://images.bestwebbuys.com/muze/b...1599211374.jpg

I just don't know if the other one is that Seattle fan who hangs around here now and then.

Adam Thu May 01, 2008 04:29pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by atoms
This forum is just a waste of space, BadNewRef you are just a wanker ... of course I was talking about basketball.

If you are only a ref then you never actually played the game or if you did you probably weren't good enough to cut it and gave up to make a "man" out of yourself.

I've found what I was looking for, just a shame that no-one here actually knows the rules.

Hey, shouldn't wanker be censored? Dan couldn't say what he wanted to. If I was Dan, I'd be mad. He told me so.

Adam Thu May 01, 2008 05:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by atoms
This forum is just a waste of space, BadNewRef you are just a wanker ... of course I was talking about basketball.

If you are only a ref then you never actually played the game or if you did you probably weren't good enough to cut it and gave up to make a "man" out of yourself.

I've found what I was looking for, just a shame that no-one here actually knows the rules.

Just because this forum doesn't have the answer to the tiebreaker rule of an obscure league in the middle of nowhere doesn't mean it's a waste of space. I'm sure it's a waste of your time; but only because you don't seem interested in learning the actual rules of basketball (as opposed to an administrative seeding rule). This isn't a knock, just an observation. Your question has nothing to do with the rules, you just came to the wrong place.

The fact is, leagues decide it differently all over the world. Some leagues have a playoff game. Others flip a coin. Some go with points scored. Some may have a free throw shoot out. Some may have the coaches play paper/rock/scissors. Personally, I'd flip a coin at lower levels, and go with points scored at higher levels. But I'm not running your league.

The above is my serious, let's-all-get-along response. Now for my smart-a$$ sarcastic American response:

Quote:

Originally Posted by atoms
This forum is just a waste of space....

Well then, we should just shut it down. If we can't please some anonymous Dad in England, then what good are we?

Here's my sensitive-in-touch-with-my-softer-side response.

Quote:

Originally Posted by atoms
This forum is just a waste of space....

There's no need to be so mean spirited. Why are you so hurtful. This makes me feel sad.

Back In The Saddle Thu May 01, 2008 05:22pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Hey, shouldn't wanker be censored? Dan couldn't say what he wanted to. If I was Dan, I'd be mad. He told me so.

We don't censor English around here, only American. English is that quaint, little-used language they speak across the pond. It uses a lot of the same words as American, but mostly they don't mean the same things. And some of them have too many u's in them.

As for our atomic friend, who seems to have gone needlessly nuclear...perhaps a little reality check is in order. The rules of the game of basketball cover exactly that, the game. They do not, in any rule set that I'm aware of cover how to determine league standings. That is up to the individual league or its sanctioning body to determine. Which is why you were told you'd need to ask the league.

However, if you want to discuss the rules of the game of basketball, like whether calling the ref a wanker would be a simple technical foul, or a flagrant technical, this is the place. ;)

justacoach Thu May 01, 2008 05:38pm

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Originally Posted by lukealex
We've given you your answer, you have to talk to who runs the league. We also don't deal in FEEBLE rules hardly at all here. If your league uses points scored and field goal percentages before head to head record, that is your first problem.

If you actually knew the rules of basketball, you would find this forum useful. Since you didn't find your answer of how your son will be the best basketball player ever, too bad, go somewhere else, we don't care.

And whats a wanker? :confused::D

IIRC, it is a person who practices onanism

Nevadaref Thu May 01, 2008 07:09pm

Obviously some deadbeat dad who is trying to live vicariously through the sports accomplishments of his son who plays in a U14 league because he never amounted to anything himself.

So sad. :(

just another ref Thu May 01, 2008 08:20pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by atoms
Well he is U14 and plays in England, I assumed obviously incorrectly that there were universal rules around deciding ladder positions.

This, I assume, had to do with changing light bulbs or something?


Quote:

When I played it was points first then percentage and in the unlikely event that this was also tied then it came down to results between the two teams.
I must confess to being curious. I know nobody cares, but, is he talking about points scored? Isn't this a hockey rule? Or do they possibly award points for wins? Percentage of what? Winning percentage, field goal percentage? (do they keep up with shots on goal on the scoreboard?)
"Results between the two teams" I assume means head to head results. I thought this was the first tiebreaker in practically everything. The guy was concerned about his team getting "duped."

Y'all were so rude the guy may not even come back to let us know if everything worked out okay.:D


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