New Fed basketball Rules--2008/09

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

And surprisingly only 2 of them (7%) have been locked.

It's that kind of mean spiritedness that makes people cry.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It's that kind of mean spiritedness that makes people cry.

I'm simply repulsed!

Repulsed, I tell ya!

[Rock Chalk]

why would they make this change without letting them in on the release?

i don't understand the change if they don't allow them in on the release.

won't it really diminish the chance of an offensive rebound?

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Rock Chalk

why would they make this change without letting them in on the release?

i don't understand the change if they don't allow them in on the release.

won't it really diminish the chance of an offensive rebound?

"they" want the defense to get the FT rebound so it's a good thing.
In fact that's part of the reason ncaa men's went to that lineup, decreases the odds of offensive rebounds.

[dkmz17]

Originally Posted by Rock Chalk

why would they make this change without letting them in on the release?

i don't understand the change if they don't allow them in on the release.

won't it really diminish the chance of an offensive rebound?

I think the answer to your question is yes, and I also wonder why they didn't change the restriction on entering the lane to the release, instead of the rim.

From my perspective, this change essentially returns the chances of a defensive rebound to a point close to where it was when less contact was allowed.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Rock Chalk

why would they make this change without letting them in on the release?

i don't understand the change if they don't allow them in on the release.

won't it really diminish the chance of an offensive rebound?

The way the rule has been the last few years, the offensive player in the second lane space actually had the best chances of getting the rebound - and I'm sure we've all seen that in games. This way, the defensive player has that spot and now has the reaction time to allow them to get the rebound. Not allowing them in on the release cuts down the amount of contact - so the rules committee takes care of two concerns - the amount of "rough" play and the number of offensive rebounds on free throws.

[Nevadaref]

The three main changes that were made are excellent. There were a few other items that I would have liked to have seen implemented (coach's ability to request TO during a live ball), but I'll just do what Cubs fans do and wait 'til next year.

[26 Year Gap]

Will the POE on mechanics and signals mean the stocks for any official who uses the Dracula mechanic?

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Will the POE on mechanics and signals mean the stocks for any official who uses the Dracula mechanic?

Dracula mechanic?

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Will the POE on mechanics and signals mean the stocks for any official who uses the Dracula mechanic?

Or is it the "Frankenstein Mechanic" for "over the back"! If so, I'm in with the punishment fitting the crime!

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

The way the rule has been the last few years, the offensive player in the second lane space actually had the best chances of getting the rebound - and I'm sure we've all seen that in games.

That suggests that there were more offensive rebounds than defensive rebounds?? I have not seen that to be the case. Perhaps there are more offensive rebounds than when players entered on the release. Perhaps there are more than what the NCAA was observing after moving the players up the lane....but not a majority to the offense.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

That suggests that there were more offensive rebounds than defensive rebounds?? I have not seen that to be the case. Perhaps there are more offensive rebounds than when players entered on the release. Perhaps there are more than what the NCAA was observing after moving the players up the lane....but not a majority to the offense.

I was thinking the same thing. I don't see the offensive team rebound a FT nearly as often as the defensive team. But then the Kentucky study and the Georgia study seem to have produced different results. So maybe things are different in Seattle too?

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

I was thinking the same thing. I don't see the offensive team rebound a FT nearly as often as the defensive team. But then the Kentucky study and the Georgia study seem to have produced different results. So maybe things are different in Seattle too?

Seriously??? That's definitely NOT what I have seen...anything that has a soft bounce off the rim is usually controlled by the inside player, but if it takes a wild bounce or a longer bounce, the player in the second space has more time to react and usually gets that rebound.

[Smitty]

The full text of the rule changes and POEs has been posted on the NFHS website:

2008-09 Rule Changes and POEs

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Smitty

The full text of the rule changes and POEs has been posted on the NFHS website:

2008-09 Rule Changes and POEs

Sorry Smitty, but those are only the comments on the rule changes, not the actual text that will appear in the new rules book. However, what is written there for the POEs probably is the actual wording that will make it into the book.