Rule change time again

[Mark Padgett]

Now that the NF season is over, we may as well spend some time discussing desired rule changes.

Here's mine:

1. change from 8 minute quarters to 16 minute halves - games are long enough without two "extra" timeouts.

2. allow taunting, but also allow retaliation for it - this would make the games much more entertaining

3. require all players, coaches, trainers, announcers and spectators to pass a rules quiz prior to allowing them entrance into the gym

OK - I only meant the first one seriously, but the other two would be kind of cool.

[JeffRobinson]

We are playing 18 minute halves here in Minnesota. They made the change 2 years ago and it has been great. No one holds for one shot midway through the half like they would at the end of the first or third qtr.

[Back In The Saddle]

Here are my proposed changes:

1. A coach's request for a time out may only be recognized when the ball is dead, including after a made basket.

2. Remove the now-extraneous free throw lane marks.

3. Change the illegal uniform penalty to be a single team technical the first time it occurs, like changing the book. And only in varsity games.

4. Switch from one-hand to two-hand reporting.

5. I've got a friend that coaches youth soccer. He was required this year to attend (USSF?) classes to certify as a youth coach in order to continue coaching (he was able to coach his first year on a waiver). I'd like to see HS basketball coaches be required to meet similar criteria. Classes would cover things like ethical behavior, sportsmanship, the proper role of sports in society, the real rules of the game. Coaches would be required to pass a proctored yearly rules test to keep their certification. Coaches who persistently misbehave may be stripped of their coaching credential for a year or more. Repeat offenders may be stripped for longer periods of time, including for life.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Repeat offenders may be stripped for longer periods of time

I'd like to see that rule for female coaches. In fact, I'd volunteer to enforce it.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Here are my proposed changes:

1. A coach's request for a time out may only be recognized when the ball is dead, including after a made basket.

2. Remove the now-extraneous free throw lane marks.

3. Change the illegal uniform penalty to be a single team technical the first time it occurs, like changing the book. And only in varsity games.

4. Switch from one-hand to two-hand reporting.

5. I've got a friend that coaches youth soccer. He was required this year to attend (USSF?) classes to certify as a youth coach in order to continue coaching (he was able to coach his first year on a waiver). I'd like to see HS basketball coaches be required to meet similar criteria. Classes would cover things like ethical behavior, sportsmanship, the proper role of sports in society, the real rules of the game. Coaches would be required to pass a proctored yearly rules test to keep their certification. Coaches who persistently misbehave may be stripped of their coaching credential for a year or more. Repeat offenders may be stripped for longer periods of time, including for life.

Curious.......why switch to two hand reporting?

[JoeTheRef]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Curious.......why switch to two hand reporting?

We changed to 2 hand report several years ago. I think it looks better reporting with 2 hands JMO.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by JoeTheRef

We changed to 2 hand report several years ago. I think it looks better reporting with 2 hands JMO.

What prompted the change?

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Here are my proposed changes:

1. A coach's request for a time out may only be recognized when the ball is dead, including after a made basket.

2. Remove the now-extraneous free throw lane marks.

3. Change the illegal uniform penalty to be a single team technical the first time it occurs, like changing the book. And only in varsity games.

4. Switch from one-hand to two-hand reporting.

5. I've got a friend that coaches youth soccer. He was required this year to attend (USSF?) classes to certify as a youth coach in order to continue coaching (he was able to coach his first year on a waiver). I'd like to see HS basketball coaches be required to meet similar criteria. Classes would cover things like ethical behavior, sportsmanship, the proper role of sports in society, the real rules of the game. Coaches would be required to pass a proctored yearly rules test to keep their certification. Coaches who persistently misbehave may be stripped of their coaching credential for a year or more. Repeat offenders may be stripped for longer periods of time, including for life.

So I guess this guy is out a luck if # 4 gets approved.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by fullor30

So I guess this guy is out a luck if # 4 gets approved.

Not at all! If I'm not mistaken, that's a loaded handgun in that guy's left hand. If that's the case, I'd be willing make him the third on the crew and let him deal with coaches, fans, and mouthy players!

[Back In The Saddle]

As for two-handed reporting, I've only seen it done. I've not worked any leagues that do it myself. So, I'm speculating...

But I like how it appears to simplify reporting. It goes a little quicker. There seems to be less liklihood of the scorekeeper missing a digit. Though the times I've tried it (in summer ball, just for kicks), it was surprisingly more difficult to do.

But if it speeds up reporting, and makes it less error prone, I'm all over it.

[Brad]

1) Move players up on the free throw lane like the college rule -- this has cleaned up rebounding fouls big time.

2) Change the team control foul rule to incorporate the throw-in as well.

3) Change a technical foul to be POI instead of losing possession as well.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by Brad

1) Move players up on the free throw lane like the college rule -- this has cleaned up rebounding fouls big time.

2) Change the team control foul rule to incorporate the throw-in as well.

3) Change a technical foul to be POI instead of losing possession as well.

I agree with that one as well.

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Now that the NF season is over, we may as well spend some time discussing desired rule changes.

Here's mine:

1. change from 8 minute quarters to 16 minute halves - games are long enough without two "extra" timeouts.

2. allow taunting, but also allow retaliation for it - this would make the games much more entertaining

3. require all players, coaches, trainers, announcers and spectators to pass a rules quiz prior to allowing them entrance into the gym

OK - I only meant the first one seriously, but the other two would be kind of cool.

1) Would you want this for lower levels also? Our CYO JV level (4th through 6th graders) presently has a rule that everyone must play in two quarters and no more than three in a regulation game so teams cant keep their best players in the entire game. I'm not sure how we would make this work with halves, unless we added yet more vague and confusing local rules.

2) That reminds me of the 2 on 2 arcade basketball game where you could punch your opponent to steal the ball or keep them from getting rebounds.

3) I'd also require anyone entering the gym (officials included) if they know NFHS Rule 6-4-5, since I'm convinced I'm the only one in my area who knows this rule.

[truerookie]

1. Adopt all collegiate rules and be done with rule changes that progress toward college basketball.

2. Have seperate rules for boys and girls basketball.

3. Do away with yearly rule changes for a five year period. Identify POE's only on a yearly basis.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by truerookie

3. Do away with yearly rule changes for a five year period. Identify POE's only on a yearly basis.

I would be happy if they did away with rules changes for just ONE year.