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Ch1town Mon Mar 31, 2008 01:08pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
I would be horrified if he isn't.

The league is saying when all checks out in the investigation he is done for the season (7 weeks)... :rolleyes:

Adam Mon Mar 31, 2008 01:13pm

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Originally Posted by Ch1town
The league is saying when all checks out in the investigation he is done for the season (7 weeks)... :rolleyes:

For the season? Good grief. Why bother? A$s hole should be banned for life from this league for punching a referee.

Seems a bit pusillanimous.

Raymond Mon Mar 31, 2008 01:14pm

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Originally Posted by Ch1town
The league is saying when all checks out in the investigation he is done for the season (7 weeks)... :rolleyes:

Where was game/facility management? I had a similar verbal exchange with a fan who came on the court after a game a few years ago at a state level AAU game. But in my case security jumped right in when the spectator attempted to make a move towards me. And they walked me (and my son) out to my car.

Whoever was in charge of your particular venue may have some liability exposure should you decide to pursue this matter in civil court.

Mark Padgett Mon Mar 31, 2008 01:22pm

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Originally Posted by Ch1town
I've received a couple of prank calls on the cell today, so I have contacted all of my assignors to change my physical address to a PO Box as I have a wife & daughter to think of.

You should set your phone to not accept calls that don't display caller I.D. and keep a log of the numbers of those who call. Also, if you don't recognize the caller I.D., let the call go to voice mail. If the morons are dumb enough to leave a message, save it. The police will be very interested.

socalreff Mon Mar 31, 2008 03:04pm

[QUOTE=Ch1town]Thanks for the feedback all!

I wish I didn't stoop to his level when I dropped the F bomb at the same time I'm proud of myself for not going CHI on him. I thank God that growing up in the city made me tough & I've always been able to take a lickin & keep on tickin!!!

To answer a few questions:

My partner was taking a verbal lashing from several fans as the incident occured. I don't fault him at all...

The league was shocked about the coaches behavior. They are receiving numerous emails today from biased spectators of said game & unbiased spectators from the following game who witnessed the incident.

I've received a couple of prank calls on the cell today, so I have contacted all of my assignors to change my physical address to a PO Box as I have a wife & daughter to think of.

Although, my ultimate goal is to change this avocation to a career (so I don't have to work these BS off-season games) I'm seriously considering hanging it up... it's just not worth it!![/QUOTE]
Hang in there. Don't even think about giving it up!!! I had 2 incidents early in my career that made me contemplate whether it was worth it. Thankfully I stuck with it with encouragement from many.

Coltdoggs Mon Mar 31, 2008 03:24pm

First of all...I concur that we all have a breaking point. As for what some of these folks will think about you for getting hit and not retaliating and thinking you are a snitch......F! THAT...you did the right thing and you know it.....Perhaps you shouldn't have dropped the F! Bomb on him, but like I already said, we all have a breaking point. The physical altercation was completely uncalled for and SENSIBLE folks would do the same thing.

I'd have been on the phone to my attorney before I left the gym....Clowns like this don't deserve to be coaching kids....

Sorry this had to happen man...

rgncjn Mon Mar 31, 2008 03:38pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef
Whoever was in charge of your particular venue may have some liability exposure should you decide to pursue this matter in civil court.

Correct. Somehow the venue/host has to be vicariously liable for the actions that occurred.

Actually, what was described in the OP is battery. Battery is the offensive or harmful contact of another without his or her express or implied consent. If the suspect threatened battery (saying he was going to kick your a**), then you have assault.

Make this joker pay for your child's education!

TheOracle Mon Mar 31, 2008 04:17pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef
Whoever was in charge of your particular venue may have some liability exposure should you decide to pursue this matter in civil court.

I know everyone here would like to see this coach drawn and quartered, but there is almost no chance of him being charged with anything but misdemeanor assault, and even that might be tough because Chi dropped an F-bomb. By cursing the guy, Chi may as well have clocked him back from a legal perspective, wrong as that may seem. If he fears for his lafe/safety, he is within his rights to defend himself.

As wrong as and maddening as it may be, the best response to any of this stuff is no response. You either take the high road the whole way, or it makes no difference. If you respond to verbal taunts and then get hit, you will have witnesses on the other side saying you provoked the attack, which will make "justice" very difficult to get. If you get cursed out, get away and notify everyone of the behavior to get the coach banned.

Hope this guy gets more than 7 months. Pretty sad if this guy gets to coach again.

Adam Mon Mar 31, 2008 04:23pm

<strike>And there's confirmation. You're an idiot.</strike>
Edited. After further reflection, this doesn't belong in a thread discussing the benefits of restraint.

TheOracle Mon Mar 31, 2008 04:32pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
And there's confirmation. You're an idiot.

For someone who cries about the media commenting on basketball officiating, that is a fascinating comment. You ought to change your name to Gottlieb. :D

fullor30 Mon Mar 31, 2008 04:37pm

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Originally Posted by TheOracle
I know everyone here would like to see this coach drawn and quartered, but there is almost no chance of him being charged with anything but misdemeanor assault, and even that might be tough because Chi dropped an F-bomb. By cursing the guy, Chi may as well have clocked him back from a legal perspective, wrong as that may seem. If he fears for his lafe/safety, he is within his rights to defend himself.

As wrong as and maddening as it may be, the best response to any of this stuff is no response. You either take the high road the whole way, or it makes no difference. If you respond to verbal taunts and then get hit, you will have witnesses on the other side saying you provoked the attack, which will make "justice" very difficult to get. If you get cursed out, get away and notify everyone of the behavior to get the coach banned.

Hope this guy gets more than 7 months. Pretty sad if this guy gets to coach again.


You have a flair for the obvious....he already said in hindsight he wishes he didn't swear back. And It does make a difference that he walked away after the loser struck him.

Mark Padgett Mon Mar 31, 2008 04:50pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30
You have a flair for the obvious....he already said in hindsight he wishes he didn't swear back. And It does make a difference that he walked away after the loser struck him.

Are you commenting on a response from someone who should be known as "The Ignoracle"? :D

Jurassic Referee Mon Mar 31, 2008 04:55pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
Are you commenting on a response from someone who should be known as "The Ignoracle"?

The Ignoracle is definitely old school.

Maybe the Trollacle would be a more appropriate name.

TheOracle Mon Mar 31, 2008 05:22pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30
You have a flair for the obvious....he already said in hindsight he wishes he didn't swear back. And It does make a difference that he walked away after the loser struck him.

Morally, it was the right thing to do to walk away. It takes a big person to do that. I only wanted to point out to the folks who want the book thrown at the coach or for Chi to bring a civil suit against the coach that none of that will be fruitful within the legal system. The coach may pay a small fine based on a misdemeanor but never go to jail, and never lose a civil case.

BillyMac Mon Mar 31, 2008 06:23pm

Sue The Pants Off Him ...
 
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/165/3...59247d.jpg?v=0

Seriously, contact an attorney.


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