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Raymond Mon Mar 31, 2008 09:23am

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Originally Posted by jgg
If you correct the error, you are in effect, disqualifying the free throws shot by the incorrect player.

You cannot disqualify the technical free throws (free throws 3 & 4) b/c they were shot properly. It's free throws 1 & 2 that would be corrected.

Adam Mon Mar 31, 2008 09:28am

One more thing. Shooting free throws in the incorrect order is not a correctable error.

just another ref Mon Mar 31, 2008 09:41am

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Originally Posted by jgg
If you correct the error, you are in effect, disqualifying the free throws shot by the incorrect player.

OK.....semantics. I thought you were saying that the free throws should simply be thrown out.

jgg Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:08am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef
You cannot disqualify the technical free throws (free throws 3 & 4) b/c they were shot properly. It's free throws 1 & 2 that would be corrected.

Yes, agreed, but that's what happened in our game. All 4 free throws were reshot and the last second of the game replayed.

Jurassic Referee Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:16am

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Originally Posted by jgg
All 4 free throws were reshot and the last second of the game replayed.

If they catch the correctable error within the prescribed time limits, which they didn't, they could have re-shot the 2 FT's for the original foul. What they can <b>never</b> do is replay the last second. Any time consumed, points scored, etc. between the error and catching it doesn't get nullified.

rainmaker Mon Mar 31, 2008 09:08pm

if either of the officials had gone to the concession stand to get some water, or gone to use the little girls'/boys' room, would that count as leaving the "visual confines"? I almost always step out of the gym for one reason or another between games like this.

jgg said that the one official couldn't be found and they had to expend some energy to get them together. Seems like that fact would be a strong hint at someone having left the "visual confines".

jdw3018 Mon Mar 31, 2008 09:15pm

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Originally Posted by rainmaker
if either of the officials had gone to the concession stand to get some water, or gone to use the little girls'/boys' room, would that count as leaving the "visual confines"? I almost always step out of the gym for one reason or another between games like this.

jgg said that the one official couldn't be found and they had to expend some energy to get them together. Seems like that fact would be a strong hint at someone having left the "visual confines".

The problem with that theory is, the way I read the rules anyway, all officials have to leave the visual confines.

rainmaker Mon Mar 31, 2008 09:20pm

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Originally Posted by jdw3018
The problem with that theory is, the way I read the rules anyway, all officials have to leave the visual confines.

Maybe this would be a good time to take advantage of the lack of rules knowledge of the coaches?

jgg Mon Mar 31, 2008 09:49pm

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Originally Posted by rainmaker
jgg said that the one official couldn't be found and they had to expend some energy to get them together. Seems like that fact would be a strong hint at someone having left the "visual confines".


No, I didn't say that. The officials were in their rest area between the bleachers behind the scorers table when the ruckus started. Both of them were there.

jgg Mon Mar 31, 2008 09:50pm

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Originally Posted by rainmaker
Maybe this would be a good time to take advantage of the lack of rules knowledge of the coaches?


Ummmmm...I'd say someone did! We sure got hosed on it :-).

rainmaker Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:23pm

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Originally Posted by jgg
No, I didn't say that. The officials were in their rest area between the bleachers behind the scorers table when the ruckus started. Both of them were there.

Yea, I see where I mis-read what you said. Sorry. Okay, so from now on the officials need to step into the hall after every game, just to cut into this crap.

Adam Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:54pm

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Originally Posted by rainmaker
Yea, I see where I mis-read what you said. Sorry. Okay, so from now on the officials need to step into the hall after every game, just to cut into this crap.

Or just cut it off once the next two teams start their warmups, or when the clock starts counting down to the next game.


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