Warning!! It's Baaaaaack!! Off-topic Baseball Thread '08 !!

[M&M Guy]

You know, at some point this season, poor Mr. Schwenk is going to roll over, stick his hand up out of his grave and simultaneously trip Albert running the bases and flip you off, all in one motion.

It's true...it's true...

[Jurassic Referee]

Let me save Chuck the trouble.....

This morning's update......

- The Rays are gagging but still have a big enough lead to get the AL wildcard.
- You win with pitching. The Yankees don't have any. They're officially toast.
- I'd trade A-Rod straight up for Dustin Pedroia. I don't think Bah-ston is dumb enough to go for that one though.
- The Cubbies are in first place. Not to worry...somewhere along the line, they'll gag too.
- LA and Manny are in love with each other. Manny is a heckuva ballplayer (when he feels like trying).
-I-Rod punches like a girl.

Prediction: the Angels win the World Series. They're the best team in beisbol.

[mick]

ESPN says the 250,000th MLB HR was prolly Gary Sheffield's grand slam last night.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

- I'd trade A-Rod straight up for Dustin Pedroia.

A-Rod reminds me a little of Darryl Strawberry and Mike Schmidt in the sense I seem to only recall them hitting homers and knocking in runs when it didn't matter.... (ya know 10-3 and 9-1 games). I seem to recall one yr Mike Schmidt had like 20 homers and only 30 RBI's early in the yr (I know this is a generalization and my memory is not so good). I heard the other day that A-Rod has THREE RBI this yr after the 7th inning! I like him as a player and his eventual stats will be up there with the all time greats when he's done. But overall, with runners on base, late in the game, clutch he is not!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by grunewar

I like him as a player and his eventual stats will be up there with the all time greats when he's done. But overall, with runners on base, late in the game, clutch he is not!

For 30 mil a year, you'd better do a helluva lot more than he's been doing. Gaudy stats don't translate into wins.

Unfortunately, A-Rod has never won a damn thing in his career to date and he's also never shown that he can carry a team either. Manny, for all his faults, has been more valuable over-all to his teams imo.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by grunewar

But overall, with runners on base, late in the game, clutch he is not!

I did some checking on ESPN's stat site, and here's what I found for the situation "Close and Late" (which means 7th inning and later, with their team either up one, tied, or the tying run in the on-deck circle), for 2008:
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	AB	H	HR	RBI	AVG	OBP
A. Rodriguez (Yankees)	65	17	2	7	.262	.364
M. Ramirez (Red Sox/Dodgers)	78	23	5	17	.295	.417
A. Ramirez (Cubs)	65	25	8	27	.385	.523

[Adam]

Manny must get walked a lot in those situations. OBP of .968? Wow!

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Manny must get walked a lot in those situations. OBP of .968? Wow!

Oops - I accidently used Manny's OPS (On-base plus slugging) stat instead of his OBP. I went back and corrected it.

FYI - Aramis' OPS in those situations is 1.338.

[Adam]

So is Aramis at the top of the list?

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

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And A-Rod continues to pad his late year, somewhat meaningless, HOF stats.
BA = .300+
HR = 30+
RBI = 100
Helping his team to the Playoffs and getting a clutch hit when it counts = NOT!