Warning!! It's Baaaaaack!! Off-topic Baseball Thread '08 !!

[ChuckElias]

Man, that was nerve-wracking. After Pedroia hit the double to score Ellsbury to tie it in the 8th, I knew the pitcher was going to throw a mistake to Youk. He was steamin'. Youk made him pay. Whew!! First time in a month that the Sox have gained ground on the Rays.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Source: Tigers put disgruntled Sheffield on waivers

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3532016

With Crawford out, and now Longoria out, is there any scuttlebutt about Tampa Bay grabbing him?

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

Man, that was nerve-wracking. After Pedroia hit the double to score Ellsbury to tie it in the 8th, I knew the pitcher was going to throw a mistake to Youk. He was steamin'. Youk made him pay. Whew!! First time in a month that the Sox have gained ground on the Rays.


With Crawford out, and now Longoria out, is there any scuttlebutt about Tampa Bay grabbing him?

I'm not sure how the waiver thing works, but isn't there a time period where another team can claim Shef, then Detroit would have to trade him to that particular team within certain guidelines? Or, if no team claims him, then Shef is free to try and hook up with whoever he wants? Or, does it depend on the phase of the moon? Sheesh.

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

1) isn't there a time period where another team can claim Shef, then Detroit would have to trade him to that particular team within certain guidelines?

2) Or, if no team claims him, then Shef is free to try and hook up with whoever he wants?

I'm not 100% sure either, but from Boston's experience with Manny a couple years ago, I have some guesses.

1) If another team claims him, then that team owns his contract straight-out, I believe. There's no trade necessary. They would have to pay him whatever salary he's due and assume any option clauses, etc. I think this is why nobody bothered claiming Manny back then. Nobody (except the Yankees) could give him his $20 million.

2) If no team claims him, then his contract returns to Detroit as if nothing happened. Again, this is what happened in the Manny situation. He went on the waiver wire, nobody claimed him, and he stayed with the Sox.

[mick]

http://espn.go.com/mlb/s/transanctionsprimer.html

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by mick

http://espn.go.com/mlb/s/transanctionsprimer.html

Good find, mick. I guess that's why you get paid the big bucks on this forum.

It would be interesting to read the entire binder they mention, because I've always wondered about some of the little-known rules. I know there was a mention one time during a game about a player that couldn't be sent back down to the minors because they had used up their "allotment" of trips. I don't know if that's per season, or per contract. But since he had, the club was now limited in what they can do with him. I guess that might explain a lot of the deals that happen - it's probably a lot to do with specific contracts, number of times a player has been sent to the minors, whether they are on a team's 40-man roster or not, whether they have a certain number of years in the league, etc. and not a simple "this player has the specific talent we need". I guess that's why GM's get paid almost as much as mick - they have to understand all the rules involved, as well as the talent involved.