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Adam Fri Mar 21, 2008 02:15pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe
Infidel.

I prefer "heretic," but "infidel" works, too. ;)

Dan_ref Fri Mar 21, 2008 02:21pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
I think the word you're looking for is "channeling."


No no, he's a practicing Cantankerite.

They're like Calvinists, only not as open to the beauty of the human spirit and the idea that we all have inherent worth.

M&M Guy Fri Mar 21, 2008 02:29pm

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
No no, he's a practicing Cantankerite.

They're like Calvinists, only not as open to the beauty of the human spirit and the idea that we all have inherent worth.

Shut up. You're worthless.

(How am I doing?)

Adam Fri Mar 21, 2008 02:32pm

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
Shut up. You're worthless.

(How am I doing?)

You need more practice.

Dan_ref Fri Mar 21, 2008 02:32pm

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
Shut up. You're worthless.

(How am I doing?)

You've broken my spirit.

WhistlesAndStripes Fri Mar 21, 2008 02:33pm

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Originally Posted by AZ_REF
For all of you who were convinced it was impossible last year (see http://forum.officiating.com/showthread.php?t=32655 ) it WILL happen this year.

There is a D-I official working a Men's game tonight and a Women's game on Sunday. I will post links to box scores after Sunday's games.

I don't want to get into the details yet, because there is more secrecy with who's working what game this year than there is about what really happened to Jimmy Hoffa. We can all thank Mr Donaghy for that.

If this is the case, I guess this official decided in advance that he will work 1 NCAA Men's tourney and be done with the Men's tourney? I say this because, my understanding is that officials advance through the tourney just as the teams do, or in other words, once you sit out a round, you're done. By choosing to work a 1st round men's game on Thursday, and then a first round Women's game on Sunday, I would think that said official will not be available for any Saturday Men's games either due to needing to get to his women's assignment site. Am I missing something here?

M&M Guy Fri Mar 21, 2008 02:35pm

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
You've broken my spirit.

Man, are you thin-skinned.

M&M Guy Fri Mar 21, 2008 02:43pm

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Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes
If this is the case, I guess this official decided in advance that he will work 1 NCAA Men's tourney and be done with the Men's tourney? I say this because, my understanding is that officials advance through the tourney just as the teams do, or in other words, once you sit out a round, you're done. By choosing to work a 1st round men's game on Thursday, and then a first round Women's game on Sunday, I would think that said official will not be available for any Saturday Men's games either due to needing to get to his women's assignment site. Am I missing something here?

I don't know all the specifics as to the NCAA tournament scheduling. But I do know games for the men's and women's tournament are on different days, so a lot of the logistics would have to do with the times and locations of games. Looking at it from a regular season perspective, a vast majority of the top officials have no problem getting from site to site by the next day. It's not like football, where they have to be there for the pre-game the night before; as long as they are at the game site at the required time (usually 1.5 to 2 hrs. ahead). I don't see how it would be any different for this official.

Adam Fri Mar 21, 2008 02:44pm

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
Man, are you thin-skinned.

That's what DJ's assigner said. She wasn't pleased.

Dan_ref Fri Mar 21, 2008 03:00pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
That's what DJ's assigner said. She wasn't pleased.

Yabut he didn't call me unprofessional so it's a good day.

Raymond Fri Mar 21, 2008 03:03pm

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Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes
If this is the case, I guess this official decided in advance that he will work 1 NCAA Men's tourney and be done with the Men's tourney? I say this because, my understanding is that officials advance through the tourney just as the teams do, or in other words, once you sit out a round, you're done. By choosing to work a 1st round men's game on Thursday, and then a first round Women's game on Sunday, I would think that said official will not be available for any Saturday Men's games either due to needing to get to his women's assignment site. Am I missing something here?

1st & 2nd round assignments are given out at the same time. The officials go to the opening round already knowing whether or not they will be working 2 games or only 1 game. It's possible to only work a 1st round game and still be selected for the Sweet 16.

BillyMac Fri Mar 21, 2008 07:30pm

One Big Adjustment ...
 
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Originally Posted by rainmaker
Not everyone distinguishes between the two games by calling them "levels". And not everyone thinks it's impossible to adjust between the two styles.

I'm a high school varsity official who also does Catholic school games on weekends, down to the "level" of fourth, and fifth, grade, boys, and girls.

The biggest adjustment that I find I have to make, is from a Thursday night girls varsity game, to a Friday night boys varsity game. Not vice versa, and not with any other "level" change from night to night, or day to day. I guess that it has to do with calling a game below the rim, to calling a game above the rim?

AZ_REF Sun Mar 23, 2008 09:34pm

Extra credit to socallref for guessing correctly.

He had the UCLA - Mississippi Valley State game on Thursday:

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=284000032


And the Iowa - Georgia women's game today:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/boxscore?gameId=284000017


As a side note he was one of the 3 officials suspended by the big sky this year. One of the other's Eric Curry had the USC - Kansas State game. Glad to see they still earned postseason assignments.

socalreff Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:19am

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Originally Posted by AZ_REF
Extra credit to socallref for guessing correctly.

He had the UCLA - Mississippi Valley State game on Thursday:

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=284000032


And the Iowa - Georgia women's game today:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/boxscore?gameId=284000017


As a side note he was one of the 3 officials suspended by the big sky this year. One of the other's Eric Curry had the USC - Kansas State game. Glad to see they still earned postseason assignments.

I think that's where we all wanna get to... goof up majorly and it doesn't affect the schedule too much. I guess it's better to goof at the top than on your way up.


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