UK GA - Goaltended FT

[vbzebra]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Mike, that would NOT be goaltending. To understand this, you have to understand the difference between goaltanding and basket interference.

In order to have GT, there must be a try for goal. For BI, it doesn't matter how the ball gets on the rim or in the cylinder. Could be a pass or a deflection. But for GT, it must be a try.

Goaltending:

1. Must be a try.
2. Must be on the way down.
3. Must be completely outside the cylinder.
4. Must be completely above the rim.
5. Must have a chance to go in.

Basket Interference:

1. Can't touch the ball if it's in the cylinder.
2. Can't touch the basket or ball if it's on or in the basket.
3. Can't touch the ball (even outside the cylinder) after reaching through the basket.
4. If rim is moved, it can't contact the ball before returning to its original position.

So in your situation, it would not be GT, because it is not outside the cylinder. It's basket interference, because of #1 -- touching a live ball in the imaginary cylinder.

By rule, GT a free throw in a technical foul; but committing basket interference during a free throw is NOT a technical foul.

Why?

Because it's possible to commit basket interference during a free throw, while making a legitimate basketball play. Just like in the situation you describe. But it's not possible to commit goaltending during a free throw, except by doing it on purpose (and in HS, by committing a lane violation first), which is considered unsportsmanlike.

Hope that helps.

As one who just finished his rookie officiating year, I loved this particular breakdown. Very descriptive and helpful. Would it be accurate to say that goaltending is "deliberate" and basket interferrence is "accidental"?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by vbzebra

As one who just finished his rookie officiating year, I loved this particular breakdown. Very descriptive and helpful. Would it be accurate to say that goaltending is "deliberate" and basket interferrence is "accidental"?

Not really. Think through the implications. More specifically, think of situations where these two statements would not be accurate. There are plenty.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by vbzebra

As one who just finished his rookie officiating year, I loved this particular breakdown. Very descriptive and helpful. Would it be accurate to say that goaltending is "deliberate" and basket interferrence is "accidental"?

I would not say that. For example, basket interference can definitely be intentional. This sometimes happens when a big guy tries to dunk a missed shot. He goes up, while the ball is still in the cylinder, and jams it into the basket. This is BI, because he touched the ball while it was in the cylinder; and it's also clearly an intentional act.

I suppose it's also possible to accidentally touch a try on its downward flight, but that would be tough.

The main point I was trying to make for this discussion of the free throw, is that during a free throw, you can commit goaltending ONLY on purpose -- either by blocking it on the way up, or intentionally swatting it away before it gets to the basket.

[vbzebra]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

I would not say that. For example, basket interference can definitely be intentional. This sometimes happens when a big guy tries to dunk a missed shot. He goes up, while the ball is still in the cylinder, and jams it into the basket. This is BI, because he touched the ball while it was in the cylinder; and it's also clearly an intentional act.

I suppose it's also possible to accidentally touch a try on its downward flight, but that would be tough.

The main point I was trying to make for this discussion of the free throw, is that during a free throw, you can commit goaltending ONLY on purpose -- either by blocking it on the way up, or intentionally swatting it away before it gets to the basket.

Thanks. I'll have a refresher tonight with my good friend, the NFHS rulebook. The post wasn't originally mine, but it cerainly helped ME alot!