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Old Mon Mar 10, 2008, 12:36pm
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6th grade all star tournament,

I had watched several games. I noticed on several occasions, that a held ball was called, when one player had the ball with both hands and another player had one hand/arm on (or even near) the ball.

I spoke with the two different officials, right before the game, they were calling. I asked them about the quick held ball calls. ( I will quote the best I can)

One said, " as long as he has one hand/arm on the ball I will call a held ball "
I said " so you consider having one hand touching the ball control of the ball"

The other said " yes, that is the same as when a shooter shoots the ball and a defender pins the ball against the shooters hand(s) "
I said " I would agree with the held ball in that situation, but the only way to show control in the other situation, is to have the ball pinned against their body"

Anyway, my question is -- what am I missing, or flat out do not know, when it comes to calling a held ball ??
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Old Mon Mar 10, 2008, 12:39pm
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You've got officials calling quick held balls. Nothing to miss.
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Old Mon Mar 10, 2008, 01:26pm
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You've got officials calling quick held balls. Nothing to miss.
I agree - from your description - with this, but there's also many ways a person can control the ball with only one hand/arm.
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I agree - from your description - with this, but there's also many ways a person can control the ball with only one hand/arm.
Maybe, but it's highly unlikely to happen when another player has full control of the ball.
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I just got the impression from the calls, and the discussion, that most of these officials believed that touching=controlling.

There were probably 10 different officials, all were quick on the held balls
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Old Mon Mar 10, 2008, 01:46pm
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Lower level games tend to get newer officials.
Or, maybe they were directed by the controling authority to call them quick due to previous issues. That said, it sounds like they just don't know the held-ball rule very well.
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Lower level games tend to get newer officials.
Or, maybe they were directed by the controling authority to call them quick due to previous issues. That said, it sounds like they just don't know the held-ball rule very well.
Very possible, I have been told this before with 5th and 6th graders in a rec league. Without that statement, this does sound like a quick held ball call.
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