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bigda65 Tue Mar 04, 2008 03:17pm

Tip Question
 
Here is what happened -

Ball thrown up, both slap, and pin ball against each others hand.
As their feet touch the floor, both slap again, and pin ball against each others hand (about face level). One wises up, and slaps the ball from the side, and it goes to a teammate.

In this sitch a re-jump was called.

Would you call a re-jump in this sitch?

If you wouldn't, could you give examples of what would have to happen for a re-jump.

bob jenkins Tue Mar 04, 2008 03:28pm

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Originally Posted by bigda65
Here is what happened -

Ball thrown up, both slap, and pin ball against each others hand.
As their feet touch the floor, both slap again, and pin ball against each others hand (about face level). One wises up, and slaps the ball from the side, and it goes to a teammate.

In this sitch a re-jump was called.

Would you call a re-jump in this sitch?

If you wouldn't, could you give examples of what would have to happen for a re-jump.

If both were holding the ball when they landed, re-jump. OTherwise, it sounds like one of the jumpers tapped the ball three times -- that's a violation.

bigda65 Tue Mar 04, 2008 03:34pm

Bob,

One official did call a violation, one called re-jump.

I wouldn't swear in a court of law, but I think they both touched the ball three times, It's just that one of them whacked it from the side.

SonikBoom Tue Mar 04, 2008 07:02pm

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Originally Posted by bigda65
Bob,

One official did call a violation, one called re-jump.

I wouldn't swear in a court of law, but I think they both touched the ball three times, It's just that one of them whacked it from the side.

Whackid it from the side while also touching it from the frnt ? Wouldn'tr thatalso be a vilaotion? two hands?

Camron Rust Tue Mar 04, 2008 07:25pm

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Originally Posted by SonikBoom
Whackid it from the side while also touching it from the frnt ? Wouldn'tr thatalso be a vilaotion? two hands?

Two hands? Never heard any restrictions on the number of hands used to tap the ball.

Camron Rust Tue Mar 04, 2008 07:26pm

When they pinned it against each other, I'd go with a held ball...rejump.

Jurassic Referee Tue Mar 04, 2008 07:34pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust
Two hands? Never heard any restrictions on the number of hands used to tap the ball.

Didn't we also have an old thread where someone tried to assert that touching the ball with both hands simultaneously was the same as touching the ball twice? Iirc, they tried to say it was a violation if the jumper then touched the ball again before the jump ball ended.

Silly monkey.

Camron Rust Tue Mar 04, 2008 09:11pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Didn't we also have an old thread where someone tried to assert that touching the ball with both hands simultaneously was the same as touching the ball twice? Iirc, they tried to say it was a violation if the jumper then touched the ball again before the jump ball ended.

Silly monkey.

I don't recall such a thread but I'm sure its possible.

SonikBoom Tue Mar 04, 2008 09:33pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Didn't we also have an old thread where someone tried to assert that touching the ball with both hands simultaneously was the same as touching the ball twice? Iirc, they tried to say it was a violation if the jumper then touched the ball again before the jump ball ended.

Silly monkey.

My typing isnt' always the best and it takes time to go back and fx things, but could you plese respnd to my thinking instead of my typing? Are you calling me a silly monkey? I ddnt assert ahything, just asked a question. Why am i silly?

Adam Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:12pm

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Originally Posted by SonikBoom
My typing isnt' always the best and it takes time to go back and fx things, but could you plese respnd to my thinking instead of my typing? Are you calling me a silly monkey? I ddnt assert ahything, just asked a question. Why am i silly?

He did respond to your thinking, he didn't say a word about your typing.

He's saying this: To suggest that touching the ball with both hands at the same time is the same thing as hitting it twice is overthinking it. It is, in essence, a silly thing to think.

He's also saying you're not the first to suggest it.

Jurassic Referee Wed Mar 05, 2008 06:00am

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Originally Posted by SonikBoom
My typing isnt' always the best and it takes time to go back and fx things, but could you plese respnd to my thinking instead of my typing? Are you calling me a silly monkey? I ddnt assert ahything, just asked a question. Why am i silly?

I responded to Camron, not to you. And what I responded on to Camron had nothing to do with you or any of your posts. It was in reference to an old thread.

Your comprehension is as bad as your typing. :)

bob jenkins Wed Mar 05, 2008 09:15am

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Originally Posted by SonikBoom
Whackid it from the side while also touching it from the frnt ? Wouldn'tr thatalso be a vilaotion? two hands?

"Two hands simultaneously" is not a violation. There's a specific case on this. (I don't have my books handy) One hand followed by the other, even while the first is on the ball is, I think, two taps.

Scrapper1 Wed Mar 05, 2008 09:19am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
"Two hands simultaneously" is not a violation. There's a specific case on this.

6.3.7

Jurassic Referee Wed Mar 05, 2008 09:21am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
"Two hands simultaneously" is not a violation. There's a specific case on this. (I don't have my books handy) One hand followed by the other, even while the first is on the ball is, I think, two taps.

Yup, case book play 6.3.7...says that simultaneous touching counts as one touch.....the second separate touch after the simultaneous touch is then a violation.

SonikBoom Wed Mar 05, 2008 09:30am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
"Two hands simultaneously" is not a violation. There's a specific case on this. (I don't have my books handy) One hand followed by the other, even while the first is on the ball is, I think, two taps.

Thank you for the rule. Thank you for the not- sarcasm. I do have a couple of "processing disorders" when it comes to conversation, and I thought this might be a good place to practice discussion skills. But mocking and sneering aren't helpful, so I don't know if I'll be back...

bob jenkins Wed Mar 05, 2008 09:33am

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Originally Posted by SonikBoom
Thank you for the rule. Thank you for the not- sarcasm. I do have a couple of "processing disorders" when it comes to conversation, and I thought this might be a good place to practice discussion skills. But mocking and sneering aren't helpful, so I don't know if I'll be back...

I don't know whether you'll be back, and I don't know anything about your "processing disorders", and there certainly can be sarcasm, mocking and sneering on this forum -- but I don't see any in this thread.

bigda65 Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:05am

Thanks for the replies.
This sitch was really funny to watch, everything looked like slo-mo. They never really pinned the ball against each others hands for any length of time. They smacked the ball, it didnt go anywhere, when their feet hit the floor the ball had fallen to about face level, they smacked it again and it didn't go anywhere.
When it fell to about chest level, one tried to push it forward, while the other smacked it from the side.

SonikBoom Thu Mar 06, 2008 09:43am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
I don't know whether you'll be back, and I don't know anything about your "processing disorders", and there certainly can be sarcasm, mocking and sneering on this forum -- but I don't see any in this thread.

"Comprehension is as bad as oyour typing/?" Well, yea, it is. Wch was wya iasked for clarfication. The comment felt sneering to me. But comprehesion of sarcasm is difficult for me. Well, ill keep lurking. just maybe not any post.

Back In The Saddle Thu Mar 06, 2008 06:12pm

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Originally Posted by SonikBoom
"Comprehension is as bad as oyour typing/?" Well, yea, it is. Wch was wya iasked for clarfication. The comment felt sneering to me. But comprehesion of sarcasm is difficult for me. Well, ill keep lurking. just maybe not any post.

Don't let this thread put you off posting. If you're here long enough you'll realize that we get sarcastic, mocking, sneering, jeering, occassionally leering, rude, obnoxious, spiteful, and condescending even with people we like here. So don't think you've been singled out. We are just getting to know you. :)

BTW, stick around until the NCAA conference tourneys and March Madness get going and the trolls and fanboys come out of the woodwork. Then you'll see how we treat posters we don't like. ;)


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