Charge Call Did I get it right?
Well I took some heat last night over a charge call. We play FIBA rules.
Ball carrier came hard to the basket, took the shot and then came hard into the defender. It was a charge plain and simple, uncontestable. BUT, the shot was before the charge and it went in. So I allowed the basket and charged the ball carrier with a charge. Am I right? |
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No he didn't
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Someone who knows FIBA will have to answer, but I can tell you in US high school rules, this basket should not count. On a player control foul, the ball becomes dead immediately and no basket can be scored.
Again, however, someone who knows FIBA rules will need to confirm whether it's the same or different. |
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In these situations, allow the basket only if there is no doubt whatsoever that the ball left the shooter's hands before the contact. In doubt, call a charge and disallow the basket. Ciao |
So, an airborne shooter is not considered in control of the ball?
This is in line with NCAA men, but not inline with NFHS. Interesting. |
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I guess it's the same as in NCAA. Personally, I like better NFHS, in this case. Ciao |
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For any offensive foul you use the "punch" signal. If you have a shooter who shoots and crashes AFTER the ball is released, signal with punch first and then push signal after. If the ball is released prior to the crash you count it. It does not matter if both feet have not touched the ground. If the player releases the ball after the contact, there is no shot, waive it off and take to the side line. Use only the punch signal and move on.
If there is a pass and crash, the "punch" signal is used along with push. It does not matter if both feet were in the air or not. |
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In Canada, that is what we do. We are not using the "true" FIBA mechanics and if we were then we would be using the fist on player control fouls and clenched fist into palm of hand for charging fouls. We have modified the signals slightly.
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Here's a question. Does Fiba use the same bonus free throw principals NFHS uses? IOW, if a team is in the bonus, do they shoot free throws on player control fouls? How about team control (offensive) fouls? In the situation where an airborne shooter releases the shot then crashes into a defender, would you shoot bonus free throws? What if the shooter landed and then crashed into the defender? |
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There is team control during throw-ins. After a try for goal there is no team control, so the punching signal must not be used, as it means "team control foul" and implies "no free throws" if in the bonus. So if an airborne shooter releases the ball and then crashes into a defender, that defender will shoot free throws (if their team is in the bonus) and the basket is allowed. The clenched fist against open palm can be used only on player control foul. In the case of team (so also player) control foul the proper sequence is: 1. fist in the air; 2. punch; 3. bird-dogging; 4. report number of player and foul type. Between 2 and 3 it can be necessary to wave off a basket. Ciao |
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