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Also becuse the horn isn't official, but when you blow your whistle and beckon them in they become players wich offect stuff like to whom a technical is charged (player insted of coach). But mostly becuse there is no horn when we go to report a foul, if there were I would agree with eg-italy that this is a terrible mechanic. But when there is no horn I like it |
truerookie I sense someone here was controversial in the past with my oldschool screen name. I am new to the board this year and just trying to learn as much as I can to become the best official I can. I an not sure how long ago this individual was on and don't know why he is not here any longer. I use this name on other boards so I think I will keep it and people will understand it is someone new. Thanks
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This one sentence proves that you are a different person than the one that defiled that screen name earlier. Welcome to the board. |
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What would you guys think of changing to a new mechanic of allowing the official who is administering the FT's or throw-in to wave in the subs? It would rarely if ever need a whistle and that person can be the determining factor as to whether the player is allowed to come in or not. Just a thought.
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Would love your idea. NBA uses this philosophy alot.... Makes for less confusion on subs
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Btaylor, nice try, but you aren't the only one who knows some pro rules. At least give some of us credit and come right out and recognize what you are suggesting is a NBA mechanic. BTW, it works (your suggestion), but I don't think we are talking about failure to recognize a sub. |
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Makes sense to me... also, no harm in them blowing the horn for the sub -- that is the accepted way to indicate subs waiting at the table. |
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Ideally, all officials will always be on the same page and this wouldn't be necessary, but we don't always live in an ideal world. The new practice was put into place after a high-profile substitute-induced-lane-violation at an inopportune time.... |
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4.1.3 During playing time, a team member is: • A player when he is on the playing court and is entitled to play. • A substitute when he is not on the playing court but he is entitled to play. 4.2.3 A substitute becomes a player and a player becomes a substitute when: • The official beckons the substitute to enter the playing court. • During a time-out or an interval of play, a substitute requests the substitution to the scorer. Ther horn is never mentioned, a player becomes a player and is allowed to enter the court when the official beckons him/her in. Not when the horn sounds. The horn is not official and a player is not allowed to enter at the horn. The horn is only a way for the scorer to communicate to the officials that a substitute is ready (or in some other way make contact with the officiating crew). It is not an official signal and I don't understand why you use it for subs in italy, it's imo unnessesary (unless the official doesn't recognise the sub, then the scorer should use it to notifiy the official). |
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I CAN'T STAND when a partner doesn't whistle in subs. Why? Because with a whistle I don't have to look to see if he/she has the subs or not and when there's no whistle, I do look. I allow the horn to go and then a distinct whistle. Another sub comes up, another whistle. |
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