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MOofficial Mon Feb 18, 2008 04:26pm

Georgetown/Providence
 
Early in the first half:

Georgetown is going on a fast break, Providence player comes in and slaps the ball out keeping it in the playing court. The providence player who hit the ball goes out of bounds and establishes himself back inbounds and is the first to touch the ball, no violation. Then when he starts dribbling there is a violation called, I know it has something to do with when the dribble began but what is the correct ruling? Whatever the official said must of made sense to everyone because there was no arguement.

bob jenkins Mon Feb 18, 2008 04:45pm

Not enough information to answer. The first part (up through "is the first to touch the ball, no violation") is legal.

If the player recovered and held the ball, then either he lifted the pivot foot before starting the dribble, or he dribbled the ball before recovering it.

sharkref Mon Feb 18, 2008 04:55pm

Georgetown / Providence
 
The official told the coach that he could not be the last one to touch the ball, go out of bounds, then be the first to touch the ball inbounds. (Even though he had established himself inbounds before touching.)

MOofficial Mon Feb 18, 2008 04:59pm

But that is not the correct ruling is it?

JRutledge Mon Feb 18, 2008 05:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOofficial
But that is not the correct ruling is it?

Of course that is not the correct ruling. This is not the NFL. And even in the NFL (or other levels of football) that is not automatically illegal.

Peace

BillyMac Mon Feb 18, 2008 07:25pm

Another Myth Bites The Dust ....
 
If a player's momentum carries him or her off the court, he or she can be the first player to touch the ball after returning inbounds. That player must not have left the court voluntarily and must immediately return inbounds. That player must have something in and nothing out. It is not necessary to have both feet back inbounds. It is a violation for a player to intentionally leave the court for an unauthorized reason.

Is it possible, in the original post, that the official thought the player has possession before going out of bounds, and that after legally coming back in bounds, started a dribble, which was an illegal, or double dribble?

Gimlet25id Mon Feb 18, 2008 08:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge
Of course that is the correct ruling. This is not the NFL. And even in the NFL (or other levels of football) that is not automatically illegal.

Peace

Rule reference please.:confused:

Nevadaref Mon Feb 18, 2008 09:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gimlet25id
Rule reference please.:confused:

He made a typo and left out the word "not."

MadCityRef Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

If the player recovered and held the ball, then either he lifted the pivot foot before starting the dribble, or he dribbled the ball before recovering it.

That would be a controlled dribble, Bob? And not a slap to keep the ball inbounds.

rockyroad Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkref
The official told the coach that he could not be the last one to touch the ball, go out of bounds, then be the first to touch the ball inbounds. (Even though he had established himself inbounds before touching.)

Were you sitting somewhere where you actually heard that being said???

bob jenkins Tue Feb 19, 2008 09:06am

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadCityRef
That would be a controlled dribble, Bob? And not a slap to keep the ball inbounds.

Either a controlled dribble, or a catch and a "throw" inbounds followed by a recovery (so the "throw" becomes a dribble)..


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