Not scheduling certain teams/coaches
 

Just curious, I've heard a handful of officials say that they won't work at a certain school because the coach is a jerk. How many of ya's do not schedule certain schools because of their coaches?

There's a school in my area that more and more experienced officials are refusing to schedule each year, I joined their ranks this season. It's my understanding the assignor has had to schedule quite a few rookie crews in there this year. I wonder if he even realizes his behavior is resulting in experienced officials staying away.

I presently have one coach scratched.

There is a problem if someone hasn't talked to the AD about this. It takes a MORE experenced crew to deal with a coach like this not a less experenced crew.

However a more experienced crew doesnt want to have to deal with an A$$ simply because they can. A coach with a complete lack of professionalism isnt worth working, no matter what the level.

The problem in doing that is that at some point, you may not have that luxury. While some coaches are jerks, that is a time to hone your people skills. You have nothing to lose in those situations and may learn something. Cannot do things like that in HS playoffs or college ball.

Same thing with partners. Sometimes you don't like them personally and/or their style, but you have to learn to work with everyone or you just shortchange yourself.

Bullcrap.

balogna -- There are one or two guys that I refuse to work with -- yet to black line a coach/team. However the refs that I refuse work with are for personal reasons and they are well justified.

In this situation, I will use a phase I heard mentioned before. There are two or three people who is guaranteed to see the game from start to finish,

It appears that the definition of "more experienced crew" is a group of officials who won't work for this guy :D

I have blacklined one coach. I posted a thread, I think, about it. Felt it was getting too personal. My perception was he was trying to physically intimidate me. If he did assault me I guess I could have called someone but I felt there wasn't much recourse cause he was the local cop.

So I don't work their games and problem solved.

Funny thing is I come from a family of law enforcement/ law and order type people.

I have two officials scratched. Both have a history of "getting their partners in trouble" by just being screw-ups. I have tried to work with them both and they always get both coaches irrate...usually before the end of the first quarter. They call EVERYTHING regardless of where it happens, they never hustle, are almost always out of position (at least they are when I locate them after hearing their whistle), are lousy at letting their partner know what they have and have all the tact and grace of a 2,000 bull in a china closet with an ice floor.

It is much easier to avoid them than try to work on game management skills.

I have never scratched a coach or school.

I have one official scratched.

No coaches or schools or teams.

Last yr I had a 1st yr MS coach so upset with my partner and me he came into the refs locker room after the game.....

Long story short - report to league, discipline. I thought about not doing his games again. I was very down after that. Held off due to various forum discussions and mentoring talks.

Ironically, tonight, I worked his school again - 1st time since last yr. Don't know if he remembered me - but I remembered him......

He was a completely different coach this yr (or at least this game). Not loud. Questioned no calls. Always positive, encouraging his team, etc. Don't know why he changed - don't care. Could have been any number of reasons.

He shook my hand after the game and told me we did a good job. I told him likewise. Glad I didn't block him. Lesson learned for me.....and him too I hope

I would never blackline an official or coach from one incident -- it would have to be well documented that that person is a verifiable a$$.

I'm sure it is all their fault, too. :rolleyes:

Some people I dont jive with in real life -- nor do i feel the need to. Best to just not have to deal with them if i dont have to.

You are correct. I'm sure that works wonders for your officiating career, your avocational career, and personal life, too. Good luck with those. :)

I'll find a way to work with anyone and make them better, if I can.

You told him you did a good job, too? :confused:

Even this guy? Remember - you said "anyone".

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Actually, I thought HE did a pretty good job too.....smarta$$!

In my HS board we don't have that luxury. We can't scratch teams nor partners.

That's good we are family and we have to get along. ;)

I scratch both schools and partners--for differing reasons.

One school is blocked for not providing police at their games. Others are for personal reasons involving coaches.

Mark, that's hilarious! I guess if Saddam was on my crew, we'd have free Doritos in the locker room, or whatever junk food he was getting from the guards, right? I'd also let him throw the ball up if he wanted to.

I would love to "scratch" partners and coaches. Scratching partners was really frowned upon when I started out, and is not an option in college. There were also guys I didn't click with at all on or off the floor that I eventually gained at least some measure of appreciation for over time. The ones I don't, I just have to make the best of it. Almost everyone, probably even Saddam and Jurassic Referee, have some redeeming qualities and charms that I would focus on as positives and be successful as their partners on the floor. :D

You could make them better by simply not officiating with them.

That's if you really are an official. I have my doubts.

Never happen. I'd take a chance on Saddam and scratch you. I figger that even dead, he's gotta be better than you.

We have 15 schools that we officiate, so our choices are few and far between. I had one coach black ball me a few years ago, then he quit the next year and was replaced and I went back to that school without a problem. In fact, I have them on the schedule for tonight.

I tossed a coach last year and our next meeting was in the play offs. He refused to shake my hand in pregame. Since then, I have seen him about 4 times and each time he shakes my partners hands and turns away when I offer my hand.

I couldn't care any less than I do. It doesn't effect my officiating. I just think he is a small man with a big problem.

When I coached, I was tossed one and never thought about it after that, I even forgot who the official was who tossed me. I have since worked with him on the court. Not a big deal.

That's maturity for you. Every game is a new game with coaches and partners. Those who choose to ignore the powers of redemption end up losing far more often that winning.

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If you forgot who he was, then how do you know that you have worked with him officiating?

Inquireing minds want to know.

I scratched a school just last night. Very unruly fans, little to no game management. A private school where the AD is the coaches Dad, game management consists of students and they pay really poor for a Varsity contest - $35 - oh and they still run a 2 man crew and then complain about every call.

Coach followed us the the changing room last night. Who am I going to report him to, his dad???

Oh and this is in IL and they are not a member of the IHSA (the governing body)

I'm assuming this team plays in a league? If you wanted to you could talk to the league directors...I also assume this school has a principal? Might want to talk to that person. I'm sure you could find someone who would be embarrased by this coach's behavior. And don't you have an association to complain to about this guy?

He reminded me.

35 bucks????? That's the first red flag that they don't respect officials

Not to change the subject, but we are getting $60 a game and doing 3 man for varsity.

JV $40 and 2 man.

hense one of the reasons I'm not going back. Your rates are consistent with what conference schools pay.

When the coach came to our dressing room complaining I so wanted to say "You get what you pay for"