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Old Wed Feb 06, 2008, 04:26pm
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What's with this? I see it more and more. I don't get it. I tried it for grins in a kids game about a week ago . First toot and it instinctively is spit out of my mouth.

What's the origin? does anyone do this on a regular basis? Seems like more work to me. Why would anyone want to?
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Old Wed Feb 06, 2008, 04:34pm
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What's the origin? does anyone do this on a regular basis? Seems like more work to me. Why would anyone want to?
Came from the NBA. Individual preference. Shrug.
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Old Wed Feb 06, 2008, 04:38pm
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It is a great way to have a patient whistle. If you hold off on blowing it, you will see the whole play which will help you make good decisions on plays.
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Old Wed Feb 06, 2008, 04:42pm
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It is a great way to have a patient whistle. If you hold off on blowing it, you will see the whole play which will help you make good decisions on plays.
Lanyard or no lanyard, you still have your whistle in your mouth while play is going on, don't you? How would one method rather than the other insure a patient whistle?
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Old Wed Feb 06, 2008, 04:42pm
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It is a great way to have a patient whistle. If you hold off on blowing it, you will see the whole play which will help you make good decisions on plays.
I'm sorry, but that makes absolutely no sense. How does not wearing a lanyard make you have a more patient whistle??

Most people I know who do this have been to one of the Coast-to-Coast Camps and come back with the idea...I tried it, didn't like it, so don't do it. Others like it and it works for them. C'est la vie.
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Old Wed Feb 06, 2008, 04:46pm
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I do it in my lower-level Rec Leagues and my more actoin-less contests. Just something I do for me to keep my brain engaged and combat my A.D.D.
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Old Wed Feb 06, 2008, 05:04pm
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I agree with JR and Rock. Live ball, shouldn't make any difference. I can buy the stuff about slowing down your mechanics, but why?

I see other problems with it. We verbally state the color and number of the fouler, so in a block situation where you give the signal at the point of the foul and your other hand is tied up, your verbal notice is late, if it comes at all. At the end of the period when you are signalling no shot (or after a foul in the same circumstance) and you want to verbalize it (which should be all the time), what do you do?

JR: you and I are agreeing on more and more things lately. What's the deal?
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Old Sun Feb 10, 2008, 12:31am
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I'm sorry, but that makes absolutely no sense. How does not wearing a lanyard make you have a more patient whistle??
Sorry DJ but I have to agree. Because you have to remember not to just let it drop after you blow it, you have to be more conscious of when you blow it.

I use it during AAU season to help stay away from bad habits but not during the regular season because it doesn't work with Precision Time.

As for spitting it across the floor, I've never seen anyone do that after they had mastered it. it doesn't take that many games to do so. For me, it was remembering to grab it when I started to talk to someone, not after I blew it.

If there are those that don't like it, fine. But there's no reason to sterotype/criticize those that do. it's just a preference.
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Old Sun Feb 10, 2008, 08:28am
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Sorry DJ but I have to agree. Because you have to remember not to just let it drop after you blow it, you have to be more conscious of when you blow it.
Sorry, Tony, but I have to disagree. No matter what, using either method you're still going to make the same call. With or without a lanyard, some plays still require a "patient" whistle. And some don't. You're still going to end up making the same call at the same time no matter what method you're using. Imo, there's just no difference if the whistle is in the mouth to start with.
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Old Sun Feb 10, 2008, 11:31am
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Sorry DJ but I have to agree. Because you have to remember not to just let it drop after you blow it, you have to be more conscious of when you blow it.

I use it during AAU season to help stay away from bad habits but not during the regular season because it doesn't work with Precision Time.

As for spitting it across the floor, I've never seen anyone do that after they had mastered it. it doesn't take that many games to do so. For me, it was remembering to grab it when I started to talk to someone, not after I blew it.

If there are those that don't like it, fine. But there's no reason to sterotype/criticize those that do. it's just a preference.

I started the thread out of curiosity why someone would NOT use a lanyard. I agree with JR, that patience is patience and is not dictated by lanyard or not. I have an official friend who has really mastered it, and I'm still amazed that he's that smooth although he does say from time to time, he drops it or bumbles it.

I prefer a smitty and someone asked me why the other night and I have to admit that a few years back, I was trying to emulate a few refs I admire.

I submit that's the main reason the no lanyard.........all style.
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Old Wed Feb 06, 2008, 05:28pm
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Came from the NBA. Individual preference. Shrug.

Wow, never noticed it in NBA, probably because I can't stay awake while watching.

Thanks JR.
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Old Wed Feb 06, 2008, 04:39pm
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What's with this? I see it more and more. I don't get it. I tried it for grins in a kids game about a week ago . First toot and it instinctively is spit out of my mouth.

What's the origin? does anyone do this on a regular basis? Seems like more work to me. Why would anyone want to?
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Old Wed Feb 06, 2008, 04:42pm
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I've been doing it for 2 years now. It does slow yourself down to report the fould or violation slowly and correctly. Another official in our association does the no lanyard thing but after each tweet he puts the whistle in his pocket, does his business and then takes it out again. This really slows him down to report correctly. It does take practice and concentration not to spit it out right away.
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Old Wed Feb 06, 2008, 05:31pm
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It doesn't work for you, doesn't mean it doesn't work for others.
You missed the point, which is why would you want go lanyardless?
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Old Thu Feb 07, 2008, 12:08am
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You missed the point, which is why would you want go lanyardless?
It's just a preference thing.

I personally never use one. I would rather not choke myself or scratch my neck all night. I also feel like I am in more control with the whistle in my hand. I guarantee you in the time it takes you to find your whistle on your lanyard and get it in your mouth, I could have blown the thing at least 3 times by then. It is as easy for me to go sans lanyard as it is for you to go with a lanyard. Just a preference which adds to your style.

Let me ask you a question:

Why would you want to go with a lanyard?

Alot of guys back, back, back in the day didn't use lanyards. It was the norm. Or so I was told.
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