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What is your call ?
Offensive player is on a one-man fastbreak obviously taking it to the basket real strong. Defensive player braces for the collision by jumping straight up, but while jumping sticks out his forearm and turns a bit. Offensive player crashes into defensive player and takes the forearm to the face. Both players crash on the floor.
It happened to me tonight. I had a "no call"...not really!:D Actually, I called a player control foul and got the coaches, fans, and players all riled up! I explained that the defensive player jumped straight up and only had his arm up to protect himself. In my opinion, the offensive player went in with the intent to draw a foul, not to score, and I thought it was player control. What do you think? Was I right? |
Sounds like it was one of those you had to see to call. To me it sounds like the right call with defensive player jumping straight up. Did A1 go straight into him or just to the side making contact???
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The guard may legally jump. He may legally turn or duck, but he must remain within his vertical plane. If he didn't by sticking out his forearm, then his action was illegal.
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The offensive player went straight into the defender.
The only part where I question myself is whether or not the raising of the forearm to brace for a collision (and then the offensive player's face crashed into it) is enough to justify calling it a block on the defense. In my mind, I have no doubt the offensive player's ONLY intention was to create contact and crash into the defender. |
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I'd like to know how this forearm was extended - so it's a had to see play - because if the forearm was out of the cylinder, I have a block. If the forearm was just (almost) immediately in front on his own torso, I have a PC. IMHO, you made the correct call. |
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The forearms being out of the cylinder doesn't automatically make the call a block. Being up in the air has no real significance on the call either, as long as the defender isn't jumping <b>towards</b> the offensive player. Rule 10-6-4--<i>A player may hold his/her hand(s) and arm(s) in front of his/her own face or body for protection and to absorb force from an imminent charge by an opponent."</i> Straight judgment call imo. It depends on what you think the defender is doing with his forearms. If the forearms are just there....passive.....and the offensive player initiates contact on what would have been the defender's torso except for the forearms, I'd have a charge in that case. That's why this one is a htbt call, as you said above. Can't really tell without seeing it. |
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[quote=Nevadaref]The guard may legally jump. He may legally turn or duck, but he must remain within his vertical plane. If he didn't by sticking out his forearm, then his action was illegal.[/quote]
Neveda, I'm so disapointed. :( Using your arms to soften an impending collision doesn't make it a block. |
I do think the forearm was only to protect himself and it wasn't his fault that the offensive player's face hit them so I guess I made the right call. Thanks for the confirmation!
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With all due deference, does 4-24-3 strike a familiar note? |
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...It is not legal to extend the arms fully or partially in a position other than vertical so that the freedom of movement of an opponent is hindered when contact with the arms occurs. The extension of the elbows when the hands are on the hips or when the hands are held near the chest or when the arms are held more or less horizontally are examples of illegal positions used. I only wrote a short reply earlier. In my opinion, JR explained it in better detail. Depending upon what the defender did with his arm, which the OP only described as "sticks out his forearm," this call could go either way. Quote:
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Once you have it you may duck or turn to protect yourself it says it right in the rule.:rolleyes: |
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