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[Larks]

Brutal screen....followed by the elbow and ejection

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRHgmL8CViI

[biz]

Wow!!! That is a textbook screen. Who says basketball isn't a contact sport??

I've actually always said that basketball is a contact sport but not a collision sport, but that might change my mind.

Bonus points for # of Welmer pants hitches

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Larks

Brutal screen....followed by the elbow and ejection

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRHgmL8CViI

I assume you mean brutal screen as defender never saw it coming, it was a great screen.

[Jurassic Referee]

Legal screen. Righteous flagrant foul call.

[rainmaker]

Near the end they showed a clip of a little fracas involving Pittman, and they briefly said something about it, but I didn't understand. Was anything called on that?

[sseltser]

Three questions or criticisms I suppose(would like both NCAA and NFHS answers since I only do NFHS):

1) Should there have been a whistle by Welmer (or even Higgins) as soon as the jump shot was in flight since there was an injured defensive player?

2) I don't agree with Eades decision to intiate a rotation with Welmer still in the BC. Not a question, just what I noticed.

3) In HS, does the disqualified player remain on the bench even if its for a flagrant foul?

[Larks]

Originally Posted by sseltser

2) I don't agree with Eades decision to intiate a rotation with Welmer still in the BC. Not a question, just what I noticed.

The philosophy on this is getting two on ball side. If the crew is in sync, the "new" slot expects this to happen and knows he has to turn on the jets.

I actually like this mechanic.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by sseltser

Three questions or criticisms I suppose(would like both NCAA and NFHS answers since I only do NFHS):

1) Should there have been a whistle by Welmer (or even Higgins) as soon as the jump shot was in flight since there was an injured defensive player?

2) I don't agree with Eades decision to intiate a rotation with Welmer still in the BC. Not a question, just what I noticed.

3) In HS, does the disqualified player remain on the bench even if its for a flagrant foul?

1) Not sure on the NCAA rule on injuries and when to blow the play dead.

2) I know it wasn't a question, but rotations are initiated in college ball all the time w/o all three in the frontcourt.

3) Yes, in HS a DQ'd player remains on the bench.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by sseltser

Three questions or criticisms I suppose(would like both NCAA and NFHS answers since I only do NFHS):

1) Should there have been a whistle by Welmer (or even Higgins) as soon as the jump shot was in flight since there was an injured defensive player?

I am not so sure about that. I think the time they waited was sufficient. Wait until the scoring opportunity is over and that is what basically happens.

Originally Posted by sseltser

2) I don't agree with Eades decision to intiate a rotation with Welmer still in the BC. Not a question, just what I noticed.

Larks answered this question rather well. There is a change in the college Men's philosophy when the ball is coming up the court. The rotation might have been a little early, but if there is a lot of trapping near the half court line a rotation early is acceptable.

Originally Posted by sseltser

3) In HS, does the disqualified player remain on the bench even if its for a flagrant foul?

Yes they would. A player would only go to the locker room if they became a problem after their ejection. Then they need to be accompanied by an adult.

Peace

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by sseltser

Three questions or criticisms I suppose(would like both NCAA and NFHS answers since I only do NFHS):

1) Should there have been a whistle by Welmer (or even Higgins) as soon as the jump shot was in flight since there was an injured defensive player?

2) I don't agree with Eades decision to intiate a rotation with Welmer still in the BC. Not a question, just what I noticed.

3) In HS, does the disqualified player remain on the bench even if its for a flagrant foul?

NFHS:
1. The official "may" suspend play after the try. 5-8-2 Note.
2. I concur, but it appears that the Lead did not notice the Trail decide to go back and stay with the down player in the bc. At 7 seconds of the video clip, Welmer can be seen entering the fc and then turning and heading back into the bc. If you look at the Lead's head, he isn't looking back at Welmer and probably didn't know that he had turned around.
3. Under normal circumstances the offender remains on the bench, but the official does have the authority in unusual circumstances to require that the individual leave the vicinity of the court with adult supervision. That is explained in case book play 10.5.

NCAA:
1. The NCAA book uses the term "scoring play" and says when it is completed. I agreed with the officials allowing the game action to continue in this case. The player in the bc was in no immediate danger.
2. Same as what I wrote under NFHS.
3. The NCAA penalty for a flagrant foul is not only disqualification, but also ejection and that means the person must go to the lockerroom.

[Larks]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Righteous

Righteous as in...acting in accord with divine or moral law

Or

Righteous as in



Now if you know who they are....you may date yourself

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Larks

Righteous as in...acting in accord with divine or moral law

Or

Righteous as in



Now if you know who they are....you may date yourself

Oh, brother.

Hey, I dated myself the other night. I took myself out for dinner, bought myself a bottle of wine...oh, umm...never mind.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Hey, I dated myself the other night. I took myself out for dinner, bought myself a bottle of wine...

had sex with yourself...went to sleep.

Same old, same old. Shrug.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Larks

Now if you know who they are....you may date yourself

Just looked...my expiry date was .....last week.

Uh oh.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Larks

Righteous as in...acting in accord with divine or moral law

Or

Righteous as in



Now if you know who they are....you may date yourself

Da wimmens had no chance when you slipped on unchained melody.