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Jurassic Referee Sat Jan 26, 2008 09:02pm

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Originally Posted by Gimlet25id
Can't get nothing by you JR!!!! I got to writing to quickly between BI and GT and didn't take the time to comprehend what I wrote....thus why I said let me rephrase!

<i><b>If the ball was on the rim or in the <u>imaginary</u> cylinder and B1 hits the net, the call would be basket interference.</b></i>


"DELETE IMAGINARY"

Your right! I was wrong! Thanks for being so quick to point that out.:rolleyes:

OK, let's delete "imaginary".

The statement now reads <i>"If the ball was on the rim <b>or in the cylinder</b> and B1 hits the net, the call would be basket interference."</i>

You're still completely wrong. It is not BI to hit the net while the ball is in the cylinder. Rule 4-6-2 tells you what the cylinder is. Rule 4-6-1 tells you that you can only call BI if the net is touched while the ball is on or within the basket. Rule 1-10-1 tells you <b>exactly</b> what the basket is.

You really don't understand the rule, do you?

Gimlet25id Sat Jan 26, 2008 09:23pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
OK, let's delete "imaginary".

The statement now reads <i>"If the ball was on the ring <b>or in the cylinder</b> and B1 hits the net, the call would be basket interference."</i>

You're still completely wrong. It is not BI to hit the net while the ball is in the cylinder. Rule 4-6-2 tells you what the cylinder is. Rule 4-6-1 tells you that you can only call BI if the net is touched while the ball is on or within the basket. Rule 1-10-1 tells you <b>exactly</b> what the basket is.

You really don't understand the rule, do you?

Post #13
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Originally Posted by Gimlet25id
I read this to say that if the ball is in the cylinder not the imaginary cylinder, but the cylinder of the basket (RIM) and the net is touched then that would be BI.

I think this PREVIOUS post explains what I meant although worded incorrectly. Pretty sure I have a good handle on the BI/GT requirements.

cylinder (plural cylinders)

(geometry) A surface created by projecting a closed two-dimensional curve along an axis intersecting the plane of the curve.
When the two-dimensional curve is a circle, the cylinder is called a circular cylinder. When the axis is perpendicular to the plane of the curve, the cylinder is called a right cylinder. In non-mathematical usage, both 'right and circular are usually implied.
(geometry) A solid figure bounded by a cylinder and two parallel planes intersecting the cylinder.


After looking up the word cylinder I realize You & Bob are absolutely correct in the fact that ,"basket" & "cylinder," means two different things. Ring, cylinder, I thought they were the same. Now I know!

Really not sure how many times you want to be proven right but that chalks up two more for JR. Like I said before I was writing faster then I was comprehending. My mistake!

BktBallRef Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:01pm

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Originally Posted by Gimlet25id

#1 - Pretty sure I have a good handle on the BI/GT requirements.

#2 - After looking up the word cylinder I realize You & Bob are absolutely correct in the fact that ,"basket" & "cylinder," means two different things. Ring, cylinder, I thought they were the same. Now I know!

Doesn't #2 pretty much make #1 a false statement? :rolleyes:

Gimlet25id Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:25pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef
Doesn't #2 pretty much make #1 a false statement? :rolleyes:

:D Well I guess it would seem so. The way I would rule BI would be the same. Like I said I wrongly (for the third time) assumed cylinder & basket were considered the same thing. Thinking imaginary cylinder was the space above the rim and cylinder was the rim or the same as the rim.

I thought a ball inside of the ring could also be considered inside of the cylinder, which by definition would be wrong as Bob & JR stated earlier.

Regardless if I was calling the rim the cylinder or the rim it wouldn't change how I will look @ the play. However this discussion will/has changed the way I will define BI.

;)

Camron Rust Sun Jan 27, 2008 03:34pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef
Doesn't #2 pretty much make #1 a false statement? :rolleyes:


Not neccessarily.

I can believe he knows when it needs to be call but not how to put it into the proper words.


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